From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Aug 15 14:57:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA27165 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 14:57:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA27150 for ; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 14:57:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA01513; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 14:49:35 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199608152149.OAA01513@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: ipfw vs ipfilter? To: danny@panda.hilink.com.au (Daniel O'Callaghan) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 14:49:35 -0700 (MST) Cc: avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au, jkh@time.cdrom.com, hackers@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Daniel O'Callaghan" at Aug 15, 96 09:35:51 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > (do we have to continue to embaress ourselves about how well we know how > > to program in real BASIC ?:-) > > Didn't all real hackers start out by programming TRS-80's and Apple IIe's > back in '78/'79? I've still got some of my Applesoft and 6502 programs. > I just don't have a computer to run them on. Commodore PET and Ohio Scientific computers with chicklet keyboards and no more than 4k of RAM, and only those after their South-West Technical Products 6800's with S100 busses finally gave up the ghost. You can run your Apple programs on one of the 30 or so emulators, some of which run under X. I'm told that a 200MHz P6 can run 1MHz 6502 code at almost full speed... And this belongs on chat. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers.