From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 1 20:44:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B51E116A4B3 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 20:44:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web86204.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (web86204.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 610EE43FE9 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 20:44:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rmhlldr@yahoo.co.uk) Message-ID: <20031002034403.72357.qmail@web86204.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Received: from [194.44.216.16] by web86204.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 02 Oct 2003 04:44:03 BST Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 04:44:03 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?RMH?= To: current@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Way Down [The Line] (was: 5.2-RELEASE TODO) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: rhett@alasir.com List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 03:44:05 -0000 Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Sep 29), Wilko Bulte said: > > On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 12:19:30PM -0700, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > > > I also mentioned recently (in the last couple of days) that we > > > should worry more about sparc64 than alpha. Simply because I think > > > alpha is on it's way down and should already be a tier 2 platform > > > and sparc64 is still on its way up ... sort of. > > > > In my book sparc64 is also with one foot in the grave. As is Sun > > itself. > > Fujitsu makes sparc-compatible CPUs, too, so it'll be harder to kill > the entire architecture like HP did with the Alpha. Alpha was buried by DEC itself, with a little help from Compaq. Vague marketing policy and the way they supported OEMs led to the disaster. Samsung tried to change something, but it was too late. Besides, it was hard to promote 21264 without an adequate chipset: AMD-751 wasn't able to supply neccessary memory bandwidth, DEC Tsunami and Typhoon were, but Tsunami was offered to OEMs by Compaq for over a thousand USD per set... Unfortunately, AMD-761 appeared too late to help Alpha in its final struggle. HP has only confirmed the lethal issue, thus ceasing this agony. But Alpha will always live in our hearts :( --- Regards, Rhett ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://mail.messenger.yahoo.co.uk