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From: Doug Ambrisko <ambrisko@ambrisko.com>
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Cc: src-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-src@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org,
	Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@FreeBSD.org>, Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.org>,
	Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/kern kern_kse.c
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Julian Elischer writes:
| Robert Watson wrote:
| > On Thu, 15 Nov 2007, Julian Elischer wrote:
| >>>> "no matter how small the change, use diff + patch to move it across."
| >>>
| >>> After applying the patch on your commit machine, is it too difficult
| >>> to actually retest before committing?  This would catch the broken
| >>> commit before it becomes a Tinderbox issue.
| >>>
| >>> Seems to be a QA problem on your part.
| >>
| >> yes.. but I can't do a compile from my mac. (my commit machine). The
| >> answer is to be rigorous about how I move the patch from the build
| >> machine to the commit machine.
| >>
| >> This is a temporary situation. new infrastructure will let me commit
| >> from my build machine again.
| >
| > I find having a copy of Parallels (or VMWare) around very useful for
| > precisely this situation -- it means that even when I have only the Mac
| > around I can easily do a local test build.  The various VM packages
| > certainly have their limitations, but they're far better than nothing.
|
| It's a PPC

Bochs is free and emulates on pretty much whatever.  Even with emulation
it is probably much faster then some machines we used to use. 

Doug A.