From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 15 16:53:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 282B416A41F for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2005 16:53:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from murray@freebsdmall.com) Received: from mail.freebsdmall.com (ns1.freebsdmall.com [69.50.233.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D613B43D45 for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2005 16:53:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from murray@freebsdmall.com) Received: by mail.freebsdmall.com (Postfix, from userid 2074) id C398F1CE44; Mon, 15 Aug 2005 09:53:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 09:53:04 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: Joseph Koshy Message-ID: <20050815165304.GC35354@freebsdmall.com> References: <20050815022521.GC14277@freebsdmall.com> <84dead7205081421126e29c9b0@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <84dead7205081421126e29c9b0@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OpenOffice 1.0 Output format for DocBook Slides X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 16:53:05 -0000 On Mon, Aug 15, 2005 at 09:42:51AM +0530, Joseph Koshy wrote: > ms> I plan on committing this to CVS sometime this week. If > ms> anyone has any better ideas about the directories I've > ms> chosen or other feedback please let me know. > > It would be nice to have a FreeBSD theme for LaTeX based > presentation tools (say latex-beamer). The example beamer presentation on the latex-beamer page (beamerexample5.pdf) is very nice. However, it seems to just turn LaTeX into PDF files. We turn XML into PDF directly as a supported output format. In fact it is possible to use PassiveTeX and go from XML -> LaTeX -> PDF with existing slides, but the output is not as good as going directly from XML -> PDF with one of the commercial XSL-FO processors. Do you currently give FreeBSD talks written in LaTeX? It might be helpful for a kernel talk with lots of diagrams of data structures, etc. Far more of the FreeBSD talks I've seen at Usenix and such use something like OpenOffice or PowerPoint, however. If you want to work on improving the DocBook Slides XML -> PDF conversion (by using the latex-beamer class with PassiveTeX or otherwise) then I think that would be great. I think you'd have to do a LOT of hacking on PassiveTeX however (or write your own tool). My primary goal is building up a larger body of presentations in doc/${LANG}/slides that are automatically kept up to date by reading in XML data from the doc/www include files, and which can be created into presentations aesthetically pleasing enough to be used by real people for real talks. The PDF output so far isn't that great, but I think this OpenOffice format is a huge improvement and I hope it will bring wider adoption to the slides infrastructure. I'd probably spend more time writing additional OpenOffice templates, rather than trying to mess with XML<->LaTeX integration which is what PassiveTeX does and seems very messy to this mere mortal. - Murray