From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat May 2 04:37:32 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C5952C03DA for ; Sat, 2 May 2020 04:37:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.133]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49DbvG4ZZSz4fbn for ; Sat, 2 May 2020 04:37:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([178.12.45.85]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue011 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1Mj8Vx-1iyxvN2fKf-00f7f7; Sat, 02 May 2020 06:37:24 +0200 Date: Sat, 2 May 2020 06:37:24 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Christoph Kukulies Cc: Yuri Pankov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: VirtualBox binary not existing Message-Id: <20200502063724.6bebfa09.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <2EB69D33-65A6-4818-A74E-0DA8605C6516@kukulies.org> References: <2EB69D33-65A6-4818-A74E-0DA8605C6516@kukulies.org> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:9WXReL9uh4T64mra5LLg6uv/lJzffKiDcAS667unMtYwcUog0dD PLF/mVhobc1vqvtzv6KQmwEVvkbJNwybdpfBtFDN6BpE0AxHGxxdlB1kjC8LSp6IpZYt/jv ncsxU9rS7D3QHgVZuMSaTvF8ZuF6/IuazEsv2KmOCrQPA9lpYeH5tMP7UAXfnnYn9y9z0If KbnZqMTi4ZYW5PHorqHjA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:yAwZZe+Ts9g=:IqnnnMbnGc71XjVMeudVpR k9rwzcBKmPTf/FiGW0+cdmlioO/QFE+9yHaeBcWrA+EZVRTP8shSUdHcTNrB6JUKhtuuzsL+Q C31Po+BWjUDAuMazCjcrCOGdJs35+OU0nxf5Ax/Eoq9NHGe51wqfMPEagsm4II+r2plII7r4e jRRkm7sl+jr7F/zRL4QZOfkCT6UwNV4I4xnvT9KI+BEU/9WC8B7/JwOBabIXQPHgJqPdMwAE9 xI22oHtZOYk8SkVHDOqGsIS/hcAktj0J6l2S0jOsgrYS5/WkYHvqNeoj6Gk3bz51W5Ae8dua/ lIZIEpP2NGjoH8StK9ml/8cBytW8tC5e7HOnjOonKnkoB2+5CMUDFbwy6V2BPrD+Sca9KcH6T DtDEOjMMQCSAvR8ntn5G5hwBYftSIgkPnGoTSKzb5WecfL/nOJKVc+G2Jn0FfOaWVoCZ8RssI ymm+tkFNRZsrgqc7nNPkHb7everUtOdTeXU65+McabzP7i2T/7gi54QaC49PBWog/HhtOeU6R skzSxkRb/ehSQMnEsd2iE5bncInFshKweW95nPyNTnPDKJWLpaocV9HRLErhH4P3v52AC+S6O nm8cFDhFh7/Y4fXLbawjFFCbFP/yyL2OC8+k4PuA5w4XtWYl1WhkU30vzC0YJ/HefAxpyedk6 aDIivHx4Fudj6vnspvFxEmz+D5mYqPD3MG4tm/nPSrV2OAPrUk5n4tbQzb+do3xoIIvoVHtXY 13ddrD+t9uIy//AG0SengsnKebNi5LnRxJefJYKShz9qDczowVIvQJScSB7BR9paa0E8/Wa4/ WHCdFehplKSq/tqtCVNqHzpC8sJE6pUO5Lqe/1TPjIgKwJevMq9gHTagUCw8icP1ByKEjgP X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49DbvG4ZZSz4fbn X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.126.133) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.14 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[85.45.12.178.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.46)[0.462,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.99)[0.989,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[133.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[133.126.227.212.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[fastmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.29)[ip: (0.65), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.21), asn: 8560(2.04), country: DE(-0.02)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 May 2020 04:37:32 -0000 On Fri, 1 May 2020 18:09:53 +0200, Christoph Kukulies wrote: > I was used to use sh (Bourne sh) under root 21 years ago. So I > switched it back from csh to sh. > Wondering why they switched to csh anyway. It is a tastelessness. ;) On FreeBSD, the C shell has been the default dialog shell for all users, even for root, at least since 4.0. The Bourne shell (equivalent on FreeBSD: ash) is only used for two purposes by default: a) in single-user mode, and b) for scripting. I wonder _why_ your root account has been switched from using csh to sh as dialog shell... that's not the default setting... Just for fun I recently installed FreeBSD 4.5 (what a convenient and flawless experience, compared to, okay, I will shut up right away), and root's shell is the C shell. Per default. However, I fully agree that the C shell is very selective in which users it attracts. I'm using it for dialog work, since 4.0, and I even _prefer_ it over bash in a very few aspects. However, for developing one-liners that could grow into real scripts, I use bash (better dialog behaviour than sh). Decades ago, I even wrote one (as a number: 1) script in C shell, and I really can not recommend following my example. ;-) The only thing I do in plain sh is starting csh or bash. I also use zsh and ksh from time to time on other systems, so I get a good impression at "who is good with what". -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...