From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 17:17:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5CB316A4DD for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 17:17:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Clinton.Born@dig.com) Received: from mail1.disney.com (mail1.disney.com [204.128.192.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BE1143D45 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 17:17:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Clinton.Born@dig.com) Received: from imr1.disney.pvt (imr1.disney.pvt [153.7.231.20]) by mail1.disney.com with ESMTP; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 10:16:46 -0700 Received: from sm-cala-xgw02b.swna.wdpr.disney.com (sm-cala-xgw02b.swna.wdpr.disney.com [153.7.30.143]) by imr1.disney.pvt with ESMTP; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 10:16:45 -0700 Received: from sm-cala-xm20.swna.wdpr.disney.com ([153.7.195.120]) by sm-cala-xgw02b.swna.wdpr.disney.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 1 Aug 2006 10:16:45 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 10:17:36 -0700 Message-Id: <88D3FDF2A772ED44BCF8C91626ECD0690623E7C7@sm-cala-xm20.swna.wdpr.disney.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? Thread-Index: Aca1HGtBdlfl8uemSSmkA9qIDnT8CwAcXheg From: "Born, Clinton" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" , "Born, Clinton" , "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Aug 2006 17:16:45.0307 (UTC) FILETIME=[43BCD4B0:01C6B58E] Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: RE: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 17:17:20 -0000 You turned this into a Microsoft issue. I didn't. Do you feel that the world is closing in around you, and that it's powered by windows? You probably surround yourself with UNIX based systems and dread the idea of a heterogeneous computing environment. -----Original Message----- From: Ted Mittelstaedt [mailto:tedm@toybox.placo.com]=20 Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 12:12 AM To: Born, Clinton; Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Born, Clinton" To: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" ; "Born, Clinton" Cc: "Ted Mittelstaedt" ; "FreeBSD Questions" Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 10:11 PM Subject: RE: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? > Please explain? Because I like people to have an objective view when it > comes to making technology decisions. Then start with yourself. You don't have an objective view. > We've made bad technology work, > and I've seen free software cost more than the most expensive Microsoft > license. Yeah right. Maybe if you started discussing specific examples we might believe you, until then your just another parlor windbag. > Too many variables are involved and anyone evangelizing a > single system should be viewed with skepticism. And as I asked before, why are you pounding the drum for Microsoft since they evangelize a single system - theirs? > Is this what you mean > buy out of touch? > by, not buy, although freudian slip there since buy is the word for this discussion. Ted > -----Original Message----- > From: Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC [mailto:chad@shire.net] > Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 10:01 PM > To: Born, Clinton > Cc: Ted Mittelstaedt; FreeBSD Questions > Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? > > > On Jul 30, 2006, at 11:01 PM, Born, Clinton wrote: > > > Dude, I'm not a MS lackey. I just don't trust tech fanatics. They > > are on > > par with Hezbollah. > > You really are out of touch, aren't you. > > Chad > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ted Mittelstaedt [mailto:tedm@toybox.placo.com] > > Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 11:42 PM > > To: Born, Clinton; Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC > > Cc: FreeBSD Questions > > Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Born, Clinton" > > To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" ; "Born, Clinton" > > ; "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" > > Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" > > Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 5:39 AM > > Subject: RE: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? > > > > > >> Yawn.... You are exactly what I'm talking about. > >> > > > > Oh, a person who writes a god damn book about integrating both MS > > solutions > > and > > FreeBSD? See http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com/ > > > > You just proved to the world your talking out your ass. > > > > Ted > > > > --- > Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC > Your Web App and Email hosting provider > chad at shire.net > > > >