From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 22 10:42:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84FAD16A415 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 10:42:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adrian.chadd@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42D9C13C442 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 10:42:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adrian.chadd@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i28so241484wra for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 02:42:00 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=VUdKVKNYnF0BIGe3zGh9vDGIfCU/B8eERLfuA1Orq905LQSlSkrpridNdKXJBlvFlc4Wic+LupXDOXQcjjCT2YkmJ2jjIfSx6NMEuF7guzL+V+1hhjVQfbWfa9MW1n2Nbm8au4YSLgqqsHMnIt8r09C4cfAc8z7o2p1b6o1+SRI= Received: by 10.90.103.2 with SMTP id a2mr9210013agc.1166784120918; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 02:42:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.90.31.12 with HTTP; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 02:42:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 18:42:00 +0800 From: "Adrian Chadd" Sender: adrian.chadd@gmail.com To: stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <000801c723bb$efc2b540$260ba8c0@wii.wintecind.com> <458A2B14.5070009@freebsd.org> <458A97BF.1090503@ant.uni-bremen.de> <20061221095811.886d9850.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> <200612220259.kBM2xYxc019408@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> <20061222051513.GK63341@manor.msen.com> <20061222082639.GC837@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1a128190e1dbb40b Cc: Subject: Re: Possibility for FreeBSD 4.11 Extended Support X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 10:42:02 -0000 You know, if people really do run FreeBSD-4.11 servers which are mission critical (and, hopefully, making money in the process) then please consider donating money to the project to get FreeBSD-6 sorted out. You could perhaps sponsor a FreeBSD developer for a few months to run through the bugs you're seeing in your environment and get the bugs fixed. It might cost you, say, AUD $4kish a month for 6 months but if your stuff is mission critical (and, again, earning you money) then that could just be an operational expense which saves you a whole lot of headache in the long run. Open Software isn't Free. (I have the same problem with the Squid project. Lots of people want Squid to do everything, noone's willing to hire programmers to fix up Squid to do these things and release the work back to the public. Then people complain that Squid doesn't have 21st century features. Grr. Sometimes I think we in the Squid project need better PR..) Adrian