From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 12 15:54:34 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27053B77C8 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2019 15:54:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.netfence.it (net-2-44-121-52.cust.vodafonedsl.it [2.44.121.52]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mailserver.netfence.it", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 466gQK0hfKz4WWw for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2019 15:54:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18]) (authenticated bits=0) by soth.netfence.it (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id x7CFsRFa065505 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2019 17:54:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) X-Authentication-Warning: soth.netfence.it: Host alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18] claimed to be alamar.ventu Subject: Re: Firefox or what? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20190812173754.9bbd34f75885d616ae5d074a@gc-24.de> From: Andrea Venturoli Message-ID: <07ac40e0-ee37-8965-a65a-d4edb1ef8bbb@netfence.it> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 17:54:27 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20190812173754.9bbd34f75885d616ae5d074a@gc-24.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 466gQK0hfKz4WWw X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ml@netfence.it designates 2.44.121.52 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ml@netfence.it X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.79 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:2.44.121.52]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.97)[-0.972,0]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-1.52)[ip: (-5.11), ipnet: 2.44.0.0/16(-2.56), asn: 30722(0.06), country: IT(0.03)]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[netfence.it]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:30722, ipnet:2.44.0.0/16, country:IT]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 15:54:34 -0000 On 8/12/19 5:37 PM, hw wrote: > Hi, > > does any of the Firefox versions that can be installed with pkg > actually work? Firefix continues to freeze, crash, being unable to > remember its settings, to not show up at all when starting it other > than in the process list, and it usually can't be killed even with > kill -9. I'm using firefox-esr on 11.2/amd64 and I don't have so many problems (although it sometimes hangs and I've incurred in a couple of bugs). What FreeBSD version are you using? Did you read pkg message? Other details on your system? > what's the alternative? Now, that's a good point; so far my dislike of FireFox is constantly growing, by I failed to find an alternative. What I tried: _ Chromium: while I just don't like it in general (and I don't like FireFox more and more mimicking it), it's the OmniBar which make me avoid it at all costs; _ PaleMoon: more or less worked (altough some sites refuse it), but it's now gone like SeaMonkey; _ Falkon: seems quite light; unfortunately it hangs much more frequently than FireFox (I'll try again after the upgrade to 11.3). If someone comes up with other options I might be glad to try them :) bye & Thanks av.