From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 15 11:47:34 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75EE637B401; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 11:47:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F60143F93; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 11:47:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6FIlWju011174; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 11:47:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6FIlTlv011138; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 11:47:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 11:47:29 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: John Baldwin Message-ID: <20030715184729.GB76909@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <20030707180618.GB75063@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: Makoto Matsushita cc: "Bruce A. Mah" cc: src-committers@FreeBSD.org cc: gordon@FreeBSD.org cc: cvs-src@FreeBSD.org cc: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc/mtree BSD.root.dist src/include paths.h src/rescue Makefile README src/rescue/librescue Makefile src/rescue/rescue Makefile X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.org List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 18:47:35 -0000 On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 02:21:19PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote: > > On 07-Jul-2003 David O'Brien wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 03:25:26PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote: > >> On 01-Jul-2003 David O'Brien wrote: > >> > On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 02:28:05PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote: > >> >> No. sysinstall copies over /stand and then chroots into the new root > >> >> for the actual install after it does the newfs. If you don't copy /stand > >> >> then installs will fail. > >> > > >> > Yes, we need a /stand during the install. But not post install. > >> > >> Maybe for your machines, not for some machines I work with that use custom > >> install scripts. :) > > > > Oh, for a local TWC'ism. Stock FreeBSD should not be required to support > > rare localisms. > > David, > > Whether you like it or not, having FreeBSD be friendly to being > deployed as the OS in "smart devices" is good for FreeBSD's future, > not bad. I strongly do not wish to have to maintain a TWCBSD fork > and strongly try to minimize the differences between what we use > and what is stock. I don't commit every hack we use, but I don't > see a legitimate reason for blowing away /stand during installs. > Go ahead and be pig-headed if you want though. If the consensus > is that /stand should go then I guess that will be Yet Another Local > Patch. If "/resuce" had been installed in "/stand" as would be the FreeBSD way since 2.0; we wouldn't be having this discussion. Yet another reason why we should have gone with that location. Why am I being pig-headed over something that one company needs, and not another single FreeBSD using entity needs? All binaries in /stand are in /resuce and they are updated by 'make world'. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org)