From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Aug 16 02:44:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA22625 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 16 Aug 1996 02:44:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from minnow.render.com (render.demon.co.uk [158.152.30.118]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA22598 for ; Fri, 16 Aug 1996 02:44:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from minnow.render.com (minnow.render.com [193.195.178.1]) by minnow.render.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA23778; Fri, 16 Aug 1996 10:42:12 +0100 Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 10:42:10 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Terry Lambert cc: "Daniel O'Callaghan" , avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au, jkh@time.cdrom.com, hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipfw vs ipfilter? In-Reply-To: <199608152149.OAA01513@phaeton.artisoft.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 15 Aug 1996, Terry Lambert wrote: > > > (do we have to continue to embaress ourselves about how well we know how > > > to program in real BASIC ?:-) > > > > Didn't all real hackers start out by programming TRS-80's and Apple IIe's > > back in '78/'79? I've still got some of my Applesoft and 6502 programs. > > I just don't have a computer to run them on. > > Commodore PET and Ohio Scientific computers with chicklet keyboards and > no more than 4k of RAM, and only those after their South-West Technical > Products 6800's with S100 busses finally gave up the ghost. > > You can run your Apple programs on one of the 30 or so emulators, some > of which run under X. > > I'm told that a 200MHz P6 can run 1MHz 6502 code at almost full speed... I bet it can emulate a 6502 much faster than that. I used to have a 68k emulator which was faster than an Amiga 500 when running on a 486/66 and a P6 is a tad faster than that... -- Doug Rabson, Microsoft RenderMorphics Ltd. Mail: dfr@render.com Phone: +44 171 734 3761 FAX: +44 171 734 6426