From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 4 23:01:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E74A7106566C for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2012 23:01:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 911878FC1B for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2012 23:01:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (bell.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.40]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1DD75C28 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2012 09:14:50 +1000 (EST) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.177]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 026825C22 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2012 09:14:49 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F53F30D.9060201@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2012 08:56:13 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4F53CB2A.4070901@mac.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: PC-BSD on top of FreeBSD - does it matter ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2012 23:01:22 -0000 On 03/05/12 07:23, jb wrote: > Chuck Swiger mac.com> writes: > >> ... >> There are lots of people who are looking for turnkey / "no docs needed" >> systems, with "give me simplified choices" but "handle obvious errors with a >> nice dialog window or fix-it 'wizard'", instead of requiring CLI sysadmin >> experience, reading error logs, and running diagnostic commands to fix things. >> ... > Well, the PC-BSD team set these goals for themselves: > > "PC-BSD has as its goals to be an easy-to-install-and-use desktop operating > system, based on FreeBSD. To accomplish this, it provides a graphical > installation to enable even UNIX novices to easily install and get it running." > > That's also an obligation to test it. > PC-BSD is a product, by a private company. The burden of proof is on them. PC-BSD is an organisation or group; I wouldn't go as far as calling them a private company. > >> ... >> I suspect that the folks who define usability by such criteria are not using >> FreeBSD (or PC-BSD) at all, or they quickly evaluate it and then move on at >> the first major showstopper they come across. >> ... > There were many attractive features implemented. > I personally am irritated when I get a software product that breaks on a basic > usability test. The argument that something is offered to me for free and so > I can not expect it to function here and there does not fly with me. That's > a road to nowhere, considering that they do offer it freely. > > I will test their next public release in more detail. > I would love to report back words of praise. > jb > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"