From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun Nov 24 19: 8:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30C9C37B401 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 2002 19:08:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from freebie.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFE3D43E6E for ; Sun, 24 Nov 2002 19:08:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Received: from contactdish (contactdish.atkielski.com [10.0.0.10]) by freebie.atkielski.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gAP38f905858 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2002 04:08:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Message-ID: <047401c2942f$f5901730$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "FreeBSD Advocacy" References: <3DDF7691.22726.4FCB4F2@localhost> <02dc01c29338$320168c0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <3DDFF5A3.10708@mtbiker.net> <02ed01c2933c$e2b7c390$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <3DE00F41.D5D828E9@mindspring.com> <031c01c29356$7f408300$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <3DE071F3.F7D8CAAA@mindspring.com> <038501c293b4$2a6a6f90$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <3DE16EFF.E1E15BFD@mindspring.com> <043901c29424$958a5680$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <3DE18817.4030201@josephguhlin.com> <046501c2942b$9185ba00$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <02f601c2942d$75ec1300$16ec910c@DaleCoportable> Subject: Re: FreeBSD on the desktop (was: TheRegister article on Hotmail) Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 04:08:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kevin writes: > Perhaps the idea behind "advocacy," but the idea > behind "-advocacy" is for us 'zealots' to discuss > how best to accomplish our 'advocacy' ideals... And how do you do that if the arguments in favor of competing operating systems cannot be discussed? Do you just wing it or bluff when you face a customer who is trying to decide between the two, given that you've avoided ever facing the questions yourself? Do you fume and pant and rage against the customer, insisting that he MUST NOT consider the product of the evil Microsoft empire, and threaten to silence him if he persists in questioning your uncondtional recommendation of FreeBSD by personal fiat? Just what do the "zealots" do to spread the word, anyway? It seems that they refuse to face the "enemy." Most good sales and marketing organizations study and examine the competition in as much detail as possible, so as to be prepared when the inevitable questions arise. What are the FreeBSD zealots doing to prepare, in their secret, isolated compound? > You're obviously quite talented at many > things, why not use your expertise to help folks > on -newbies, or -questions, or perhaps even better, > put some more articles on your own site? I get the same reactions on the other lists. The fact is, nobody wants to hear even a hint of a dissenting viewpoint on anything. No wonder people without a preexisting bias just glance at the product and write it off. It's not as bad as the Linux or Mac zealotry often gets, but it's still bad enough to work against the promotion of FreeBSD. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message