From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 12 06:05:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61FAC16A4CE for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 06:05:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9372D43D62 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 06:05:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 12 Apr 2005 06:05:50 -0000 Received: from p508BB620.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO lofi.dyndns.org) [80.139.182.32] by mail.gmx.net (mp026) with SMTP; 12 Apr 2005 08:05:50 +0200 X-Authenticated: #443188 Received: from kiste.my.domain (lofi@kiste.my.domain [192.168.8.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by lofi.dyndns.org (8.13.3/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j3C65QK5014275 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:05:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) From: Michael Nottebrock To: Mikhail Teterin Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:05:18 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200504120533.j3C5XNFL008134@corbulon.video-collage.com> In-Reply-To: <200504120533.j3C5XNFL008134@corbulon.video-collage.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1177400.TspJ3DznPG"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200504120805.23933.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 cc: Scott Long cc: doc@freebsd.org cc: Mikhail Teterin cc: Roman Neuhauser cc: ports@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mozilla's install hanging on amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 06:05:53 -0000 --nextPart1177400.TspJ3DznPG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Tuesday, 12. April 2005 07:33, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > > Mikhail seems to have forgotten that not too long ago, CPUTYPE was > > something for only the most daring would use. GCC's optimizers have seen > > much improvement since then, but just because you can get away with > > always setting CPUTYPE for everything much more often these days doesn't > > mean it's not risky anymore (or we would have the resources to runtime > > test every port in the collection with all possible CPUTYPE settings on > > each arch). > > Nothing except Mozilla has ever caused problems for Mikhail, that was > traceable to this switch. Lucky Mikhail. I actually don't believe you really missed the tons of broke= n=20 ports that -march=3Dp4 used to produce with early versions of gcc3 though. > make.conf(5) documents it, it should work. Period. make.conf(5) documents CFLAGS. What would you like to infer from that fact? > And everything does=20 > work. Complex things like Perl build fine and pass their self-tests (make > test). The entire KDE built and works (although it is lacking self-tests). > > Time to stop blaming compiler for the software's bug -- and Mozilla has > plenty of them. If a compiler optimization produces a bad binary while the same compiler wi= th=20 the switch off does not (or a different version of the compiler with the=20 switch does not), the compiler usually *is* to blame. I don't know of cours= e=20 whether this is the case, I couldn't find the beginning of this thread. =2D-=20 ,_, | Michael Nottebrock | lofi@freebsd.org (/^ ^\) | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve | http://www.freebsd.org \u/ | K Desktop Environment on FreeBSD | http://freebsd.kde.org --nextPart1177400.TspJ3DznPG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCW2UjXhc68WspdLARAuiWAKCcAjYjTR+Yu6RxK12Pt5Y35aO4vQCgkD3l s+/pQE4svBVydBEAtHKq+yE= =3jB5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1177400.TspJ3DznPG--