From owner-freebsd-java Tue Dec 11 10:24:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from ns.yogotech.com (ns.yogotech.com [206.127.123.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCAF937B41B for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 10:24:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from caddis.yogotech.com (yogotech.nokia.com [4.22.66.156]) by ns.yogotech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA05578; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 11:24:25 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@yogotech.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by caddis.yogotech.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBBIONV00440; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 11:24:23 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate) From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15382.20310.915394.242516@caddis.yogotech.com> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 11:24:22 -0700 To: Bill Huey Cc: Nate Williams , absinthe@pobox.com, shanon loveridge , freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: jdk1.3.1p5 In-Reply-To: <20011211103039.GA8233@gnuppy> References: <20011210001702.10731.qmail@web14303.mail.yahoo.com> <20011210024138.GA3148@gnuppy> <20011209223635.A1152@absinthe> <15380.15272.167683.46148@caddis.yogotech.com> <20011211103039.GA8233@gnuppy> X-Mailer: VM 6.96 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Why? The native threading that we're using now is no better/worse than > > the internal green threads implementation. Without kernel threads, > > native threads have *EXACTLY* the same sorts of problems that exist with > > green threads. > > It's not native threading per se as much as HotSpot. See my later email. > The port can't be > taken seriously until that is fully working, so what's being said isn't > a directly about native threading. I disagree, but we're all entitled to our own opinions. We don't need HotSpot in order to be 'real'. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message