From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 2 08:42:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BC7716A403 for ; Wed, 2 May 2007 08:42:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6F9613C44C for ; Wed, 2 May 2007 08:42:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l428gW1K095329; Wed, 2 May 2007 01:42:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Victor Engmark" Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 01:44:03 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <7d4f41f50705010028o319c543aj4c57f4e2edb9cf8d@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Wed, 02 May 2007 01:42:33 -0700 (PDT) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: RE: How to find HorizSync / VertRefresh rates? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 May 2007 08:42:35 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Victor Engmark > Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 12:28 AM > To: Greg 'groggy' Lehey > Cc: FreeBSD Questions > Subject: Re: How to find HorizSync / VertRefresh rates? > > > On 5/1/07, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > > > > On Monday, 30 April 2007 at 11:02:54 +0200, Victor Engmark wrote: > > > I'm trying to create a pristine xorg.conf, but I've been unable to > > > find proper values for HorizSync and VertRefresh for my Dell Latitude > > > D610. > > > > > > I've tried the values presented in MonitorsDB > > > > ?view=markup > > > > > > for "Dell 1400x1050 Laptop Display Panel", which are HorizSync > > > 31.5-90.0 and VertRefresh 59.0-75.0, but I get a warning in > > > /var/log/Xorg.0.log for both of them saying they are "not within DDC > > > ranges." > > > > > > I've tried looking around the Dell web pages, but I haven't found any > > > pages mentioning these parameters (not too surprising, really). > > > > > > I've tried to leave these settings out, but even then I get a warning: > > > (WW) I810(0): config file hsync range 60-66.3158kHz not > within DDC hsync > > > ranges. > > > > > > I'm wondering if this has anything to do with the other warnings I get > > > during startup: > > > (WW) I810(0): Bad V_BIOS checksum > > > and > > > (WW) I810(0): Extended BIOS function 0x5f05 failed. > > > > This, along with the follow-ups, reminds me of a problem I had with a > > Dell Inspiron 5100 some years ago. In that case, X didn't map the > > video BIOS correctly, and so it wasn't able to read the information > > from the BIOS. The information includes things like the panel > > geometry, which in my case was being reported as 65535x65535 pixels. > > In your case we have: > > > > > # From Xorg.0.log > > > DisplaySize 286 214 > > > > That's clearly wrong too. > > > It's equal to the values in the > documentation atd610/en/ug_en/specs.htm>, > rounded off to integers. > I feel the need to remind folks that the concept of refresh rates is completely meaningless with LCD panels. Flatpanels do not have a single scan gun that draws lines at a specific time and rate of speed across a phosphor. The computer in the LCD panel takes the video input at a range of refresh rates, and converts it to a bitmapped image that is fed to the display crystals. You can use whatever horizontal and vertical refresh rates you want, as long as they are in the table that the LCD panel's computer can decode, the resulting output is the same. I also will remind people that the pixel counts as resolution on flatpanels also have no meaning. A flat panel has a fixed natural resolution. Any other resolution that you feed to it is either dithered up or dithered down to match the actual resolution by the display computer in the flat panel. Ted