From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Jun 18 22: 4:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from pinhead.parag.codegen.com (207-44-235-154.CodeGen.COM [207.44.235.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3169837BB9D for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 22:04:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from parag@pinhead.parag.codegen.com) Received: from pinhead.parag.codegen.com (localhost.parag.codegen.com [127.0.0.1]) by pinhead.parag.codegen.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA45140; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 22:04:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from parag@pinhead.parag.codegen.com) To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: Ronald G Minnich , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: freebsd bios. In-Reply-To: Message from "Daniel C. Sobral" of "Mon, 19 Jun 2000 13:49:36 +0900." <394DA660.F3D623E1@newsguy.com> Organization: CodeGen, Inc. X-Image-URL: http://www.codegen.com/images/CG-logo-only.gif X-URL: http://www.codegen.com X-Face: =O'Kj74icvU|oS*<7gS/8'\Pbpm}okVj*@UC!IgkmZQAO!W[|iBiMs*|)n*`X ]pW%m>Oz_mK^Gdazsr.Z0/JsFS1uF8gBVIoChGwOy{EK=<6g?aHE`[\S]C]T0Wm Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 22:04:36 -0700 Message-ID: <45138.961391076@pinhead.parag.codegen.com> From: Parag Patel Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 19 Jun 2000 13:49:36 +0900, "Daniel C. Sobral" wrote: > >Err... how is a loader that doesn't use BIOS going to access the hard >disk? I truly hope the answer is not to the effect of requiring >shitloads of drivers. It can't, without shitloads of drivers. :) ("I asked you not to tell me that, Ninety-Nine!") A new loader would need to be written that would have a way to talk to whatever firmware is in the box, Open Firmware, LinuxBIOS, etc. (Assuming that the firmware has a proper call-back API, like IEEE-1275.) Otherwise the loader will be about as complicated as the kernel itself. So it may as well *be* the kernel and use the same drivers. But then it stills needs a way to bootstrap it from ROM. Which is why the LinuxBIOS folks are trying to use Linux as the BIOS. :) ("And we're back to doh doh doh...") -- Parag To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message