From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 8 15:48:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A057416A4CE for ; Mon, 8 Nov 2004 15:48:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2114843D39 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 2004 15:48:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226])iA8FlAjq027465; Mon, 8 Nov 2004 17:47:35 +0200 Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (orion [127.0.0.1]) iA8FkslQ001699; Mon, 8 Nov 2004 17:46:54 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost)iA8Fksrr001698; Mon, 8 Nov 2004 17:46:54 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 17:46:54 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: TM4526@aol.com Message-ID: <20041108154654.GA1662@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <62.4770d826.2ec0eb74@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <62.4770d826.2ec0eb74@aol.com> cc: jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: difference between releases X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 15:48:20 -0000 On 2004-11-08 10:32, TM4526@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 11/8/04 10:12:47 AM Eastern Standard Time, >jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu writes: >>In a message dated 11/8/04 5:46:59 AM Eastern Standard Time, >>keramida@ceid.upatras.gr writes: >>> Releases are fixed points in time. They are marked on their respective >>> branch of development and that's it. A x.y-RELEASE version is effectively >>> a symbolic name for a specific moment in time. >> >> Wow, thats what a "snapshot" used to be. How discouraging. > >> A release is a snapshot - just one that everything (including most ports, >> although since the release team may not have control over all ports, some >> may fall by the wayside) has been brought up to that point of development >> and generaly checked out at that point. A mere snapshot that is not a >> release is just the current (momentary) development collection without >> necessarily making sure everything is at any particular level. >> >> How discouraging for you not to understand that. > > Its "discouraging", because a "Release" should be " a completed set of > features that have been tested and thought to be bug-free" You know that this isn't exactly true. I have yet to see one "release" of any product that does not have bugs. I probably never will. Get over it already :-P > Thats what a release is for a real product, and perhaps is the reason why so > many people are confused? It's not abnormal for new users to FreeBSD to ask for a clarification of what a RELEASE really is. This is neither a bug of the release process nor a fault of the users themselves. A short explanation of the semantic difference between the words `release', `snapshot', `stable', `current' and the way they're used by the FreeBSD project usually solves any communication problems that might exist. You're not helping the original poster by bitching about what a release really is and why your definition of a release doesn't fit with the FreeBSD project's definition of what `release' means. - Giorgos