From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 09:06:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21828106566B for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 09:06:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from avasout08.plus.net (avasout08.plus.net [212.159.14.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 715E08FC1F for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 09:06:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from curlew.milibyte.co.uk ([84.92.153.232]) by avasout08 with smtp id Gx3H1j001516WCc01x3J5J; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 10:03:18 +0100 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=I8Dntacg c=1 sm=1 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:17 a=rLpCYgkgFLgA:10 a=7-V2bO-0qoEA:10 a=ZTb9aqGL9YkA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=D7rCoLxHAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=8bjDdhRx8EG4Uln6COIA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=fgf5PR_cwQYA:10 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:117 Received: from curlew.lan ([192.168.1.13]) by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SaNlH-00010E-KI; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 10:03:17 +0100 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:03:11 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201206011003.11321.mike@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 192.168.1.13 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: mike@milibyte.co.uk X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on curlew.lan X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk) Cc: Thomas Mueller Subject: Re: Address to reach human operator regarding problems with list? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 09:06:30 -0000 On Thursday 31 May 2012 11:06:24 Thomas Mueller wrote: > I contacted my Internet service provider, Insight Cable, about the problem, > and they need a copy of any message that bounces, so they can see what went > awry. I had the same problem a while ago with my ISP (Plusnet). Standard response from front line support is to say you need to send a copy of the message that you never had. Eventually I diverted my questions@ mail to a server that I had control of and relayed the messages from there to my ISP account so I could monitor the logs. The spam was being rejected with "552 Spam Message Rejected" and no information was returned to identify the email. Most of the rejected mail was spam but there were a small number of false positives. When I managed to get past the ISP's front line support they removed the addresses for the false positives from the blacklist but this is only a temporary fix since more addresses keep wrongly finding heir way onto the list over time, though they do eventually drop off it again. Plusnet use Cloudmark spam filtering and I see from the OP's headers that Insight also use Cloudmark so I'd expect similar things are happening there. I was able to stop the bounces by adding freebsd.org to the whitelist on my ISP account - but with the downside of seeing more spam on the list. -- Mike Clarke