From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 5 19:41:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BA8616A404 for ; Fri, 5 May 2006 19:41:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikej@rogers.com) Received: from smtp102.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp102.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9619643D49 for ; Fri, 5 May 2006 19:41:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mikej@rogers.com) Received: (qmail 40439 invoked from network); 5 May 2006 19:41:20 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=yaymnKqAupsnLLGPGU3NnxN396tWjGDTQ8xMHFrUbMjrnZEILNV7BjVHtKd9CSp2bLl+0qijv36mRWdTtkKqENKJ3/aKJyALEVJlilRaTSZd5B7si3n8ES/HkIVHeGorU6emispDC0BtwPT4Wx2afg/Rop1NWSsb5Z74oAqbj9c= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?70.31.50.218?) (mikej@rogers.com@70.31.50.218 with plain) by smtp102.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 May 2006 19:41:19 -0000 Message-ID: <445BAA62.109@rogers.com> Date: Fri, 05 May 2006 15:41:22 -0400 From: Mike Jakubik User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Linimon References: <20060505192152.GA17616@soaustin.net> In-Reply-To: <20060505192152.GA17616@soaustin.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: rwatson@FreeBSD.org, kris@FreeBSD.org, pjd@FreeBSD.org, stable@FreeBSD.org, linimon@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: quota deadlock on 6.1-RC1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 May 2006 19:41:22 -0000 Mark Linimon wrote: > Make Jakubik wrote: > > >> FreeBSD users now demand stability and performance, as opposed to an >> influx of new bells and whistles just before the release [...] I fully >> understand that this is a volunteer project [...] >> > > I'm sorry, but the former statement proves the latter false. > > Let's try to do our Semi-Annual Refresher Course On Open Source Development: > Mark, you bring up a lot of valid points, which i agree with. Maybe i needed a refresher. I can certainly understand the developers loosing interest when they are denied the ability to work on what they are themselves interested in. Perhaps a frequent release cycle is the answer. However, i think things should stay in -CURRENT a bit longer before they make it to -STABLE, i.e. the openbsd dhcp client import caused a lot of problems. In any case, i am grateful to all the contributors and quite happy with what FreeBSD is today, so there wont be any more complains from me on this subject, i vented my steam, and got a refresh on reality.