From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 30 09:15:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6562B16A4CE; Mon, 30 Aug 2004 09:15:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vhost109.his.com (vhost109.his.com [216.194.225.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EA4343D54; Mon, 30 Aug 2004 09:15:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brad@stop.mail-abuse.org) Received: from [10.0.1.3] (localhost.his.com [127.0.0.1]) by vhost109.his.com (8.12.11/8.12.3) with ESMTP id i7U9Fc6j032014; Mon, 30 Aug 2004 05:15:39 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from brad@stop.mail-abuse.org) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: bs663385@127.0.0.1 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200408301005.58602.dfr@nlsystems.com> References: <200408160104.03708.chris@behanna.org> <41325D89.5040806@freebsd.org> <20040829232346.GA95117@dragon.nuxi.com> <200408301005.58602.dfr@nlsystems.com> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 11:15:33 +0200 To: Doug Rabson From: Brad Knowles Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" cc: Tim Kientzle cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Public Access to Perforce? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 09:15:41 -0000 At 10:05 AM +0100 2004-08-30, Doug Rabson quoted David O'Brien: >> For what the project uses Perforce for, SVN >> would offer nothing. > > True. That doesn't mean that subversion isn't better than CVS though. That's not the point. The point is that subversion is not better than Perforce, at least for the functions for which the FreeBSD project uses Perforce. The debate is not between Perforce vs. CVS or subversion vs. CVS, but whether subversion or Perforce is a better replacement for CVS for certain specific functions. This is a debate that can only reasonably occur between people who actually understand both alternative tools to a sufficient degree. I think that the point being made by David O'Brien was that there were a lot of people standing up and being indignant about the way subversion was being treated in this discussion but then saying that they didn't know how it compared to Perforce. This is counter-productive, to say the least. -- Brad Knowles, "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See for more info.