From owner-cvs-all Fri Jun 16 7:26:59 2000 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from majordomo2.umd.edu (majordomo2.umd.edu [128.8.10.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F8EB37BF27; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 07:26:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from culverk@wam.umd.edu) Received: from rac1.wam.umd.edu (root@rac1.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.141]) by majordomo2.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA24638; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 10:26:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rac1.wam.umd.edu (sendmail@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rac1.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA16171; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 10:26:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (culverk@localhost) by rac1.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA16167; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 10:26:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: rac1.wam.umd.edu: culverk owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 10:26:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenneth Wayne Culver To: Bill Fumerola Cc: Nate Williams , "Daniel O'Connor" , "Daniel C. Sobral" , cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, Alfred Perlstein Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/kern uipc_socket.c uipc_socket2.c src/sy In-Reply-To: <20000616102115.Z8523@jade.chc-chimes.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Thu, Jun 15, 2000 at 11:06:48PM -0600, Nate Williams wrote: > > > Correct. If we want performance, how about removing the difference > > between kernel and userland. Why have the overhead of the kernel > > vs. userland change, since it causes us to take a big performance hit. > > > > As long as we're at it, we may as well embed all of the video drivers in > > the kernel, like NT did. X should become an embedded part of the > > system, since that will also speed up performance again. > > > > There are *LOTS* of performance improvments that can be done. Since > > FreeBSD is used on the internet, let's embed telnet and ftp in the > > kernel as well. We could certainly blow away all benchmarks that people > > see. > > So basically if you don't have any constructive to contribute to the > specific case at hand, you can just make broad assinine statements? > ouch. Anyway, I like the idea of doing whatever it takes to make our performance increase... but not at the expense of having a stable OS. Just about everything in the "assinine statements" above would leave us with a very unstable OS. I couldn't care less (and a lot of people would surely agree) whether or not we have the "standard" or "traditional" implementation of anything as long as to the user things are basically the same, and things perform better. ================================================================= | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best NT upgrade | | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| ================================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message