From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 19 20:34:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6C3F106567A for ; Thu, 19 Aug 2010 20:34:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C6F98FC0C for ; Thu, 19 Aug 2010 20:34:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o7JKYMud063111 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 2010 13:34:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Thu, 19 Aug 2010 13:34:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 13:34:21 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100819203421.GD90635@thought.org> References: <20100819011024.GA10288@thought.org> <4C6CA223.2040801@gmail.com> <20100819040156.GA72647@comcast.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100819040156.GA72647@comcast.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on ethic.thought.org Subject: Re: well, i guess it's time to ask..... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 20:34:27 -0000 On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 09:01:56PM -0700, Charlie Kester wrote: > On Wed 18 Aug 2010 at 20:16:51 PDT Depo Catcher wrote: > > > >On 8/18/2010 8:10 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > >>'ve hesitated. on my 3.0gh thinkpad, streams fly > >>flawlessly. So if i buy one of the notebooks with a > > > >Stream what kind of movies? Some video players (like VLC) have > >hardware acceleration that will help a lot if your video card/driver > >supports it. > >Things like Flash based movies might be kind of iffy though since > >they can't take advantage of the video hardware [?]. Once you start > >moving up to high def video you might have some problems, but know a > >lot of Home Theater guys that use Atoms for media centers: > >http://hardforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=103 > > > >My gfs Atom 330 plays videos in VLC fine and flash fine, but full > >screen flash drops frames. This is under WinXP. > >The new D510 CPU are faster in benchmarks; it has dual cores with > >hyperthreading. > > But be aware that the Xorg intel driver in the current portstree does > NOT support the graphics controller built into the D510 and other > Pineview Atoms. The vesa driver works, but doesn't take advantage of > AGP or other graphics niftiness. > > I have one of these myself, and can confirm that downloaded videos play > acceptably well, despite using vesa. I can't speak to streaming video > performance, however, since I don't use Flash and usually don't watch > online videos. > > I've seen reviews of the D510 that say HD video performance is sub-par > even on operating systems with drivers that fully support the graphics > controller. > > >If you wait a few months, the new D525 CPUs should be out in consumer > >computers - these are 1.8Ghz (instead of 1.6Ghz) and support DDR3 > >(instead of DDR2). That might help a bit. Both are limited to 4 gigs. > > > >So, I would bet that 90% of the time it'll be enough if you have a > >good video card with good drivers. I'm not an expert on them though, I > >think they are neat though. > > There are Atom-based systems available with Nvidia graphics. Gary might > want to consider one of those, although it probably won't be as dirt > cheap or as low-wattage as a Pineview system. (I have no experience > with them myself.) jeez, and to think i was a =hardware= major. hm. is there a website than can explain the pros/cons? a friend is helping me move from 5 tower cases to two. money is always a concern, but saving watts is more important. gary > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.83a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org