From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 13:21:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA21182 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 13:21:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA21161; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 13:21:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chuckr@mat.net) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA04149; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 16:19:35 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 16:19:35 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" cc: alexandr@mail.eecis.udel.edu, dcs@newsguy.com, committers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Postfix is coming. new uid, gid required. In-Reply-To: <199812311832.KAA01002@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Thu, 31 Dec 1998, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > > Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 10:07:32 -0800 (PST) > > From: alexandr@mail.eecis.udel.edu > > > > However, here's my real bone of contention. The FreeBSD project has > > at last! Don't cheer too much, I think he's just going to change his story. He basically wants to dismember lots of the FreeBSD tree, and this is just a convenient excuse. One thing does kinda get me, tho. IBM, like Sun, has made several moves recently that have been friendly to open software. I'm not saying they're giving the store away, but things have changed at IBM since the 80's, and I don't think he's noticed it. > > I swear, it's almost like we've become victims of IBM's marketing > > machine. Jikes is just one of a hoard of software that IBM has been making public. All companies that do that should be clearly cheered for it, not taken to task because they're not totally perfect, nor because of rather poor, decade-old records. Times are changing, and IBM is not the boogie-man they used to be. You honestly ought to web-surf the IBM site, all the free and technically extremely interesting stuff there will take a good long while to read through. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@glue.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic (FreeBSD-current) (301) 220-2114 | and jaunt (NetBSD). ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message