From owner-svn-doc-all@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 8 04:04:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-doc-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B7CE106566B for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2012 04:04:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-src@helfman.org) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1259B8FC0C for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2012 04:04:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by weyx56 with SMTP id x56so239704wey.13 for ; Tue, 07 Aug 2012 21:04:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :x-gm-message-state; bh=8juKVNZWYQobG72nThfefjuHjyGnbrSCTWa2fVJx+3Q=; b=Ti9aH7AMmb39249oHwbM7yC3Yj94jh/hSiZlB2L6XP1KHAmJVjQKvwdoja58aMQWMU 92IfuJVwz5QOzF/oFWYAxtrXXbxPaX97497bFclgJLLK0lje1KcZa/p9paYz8HlYgSSF +s6y3uRyuygs8FSU+KySnrezk0z0DVke9kzXNmAxAR0A1mOPx+jm/3lNmUBFfQqsS7V8 d5XFWJtLgKGHEZ9vnMlGztyZLubpKxLtImMuaDOEIj6eVqEAbFkGPqqS1IszXscmrtb/ 9xzO43TfAlkLWxLu2iRjn5axoAqGiyx7MfsGEoHrAy0Xx4u/lZT3qz3MzfGQyPbZTPJF 3juQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.20.204 with SMTP id p12mr2236441wie.7.1344398656094; Tue, 07 Aug 2012 21:04:16 -0700 (PDT) Sender: bsd-src@helfman.org Received: by 10.194.16.36 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 21:04:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120808035000.GB1368@glenbarber.us> References: <201207222219.q6MMJeAL032049@svn.freebsd.org> <20120808035000.GB1368@glenbarber.us> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 21:04:16 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: WQstO0NPOFw1skeBEvx6vLZ6TPs Message-ID: From: Jason Helfman To: Glen Barber X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlaRQY1R0wVZMwiWURwyj2/XGPpydsVjlMc5ikPeNTS4F34vha8xegWZBQfVVWkwBMD7S36 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: svn-doc-head@freebsd.org, Robert Watson , svn-doc-all@freebsd.org, doc-committers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r39249 - head/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq X-BeenThere: svn-doc-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire doc trees \(except for " user" , " projects" , and " translations" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2012 04:04:19 -0000 On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Glen Barber wrote: > On Tue, Aug 07, 2012 at 08:41:52PM -0700, Jason Helfman wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Eitan Adler wrote: > > > > > On 28 July 2012 03:07, Robert Watson wrote: > > > > On Sun, 22 Jul 2012, Eitan Adler wrote: > > > > A further consideration in the source code-related sections is that > > > building > > > > your own {world, kernel} will bump you off the support path for > binary > > > > updates and upgrades with freebsd-update. This is increasingly a > > > > consideration for our default kernel configuration: kernel options > that > > > > require recompilation force users not to use the most user-friendly > > > upgrade > > > > path we have. > > > > > > I've committed some text to this effect. > > > > > > > And the other side of this, is if you decided to run your own custom > > kernel, you can run your own update server, and follow the patches from > > upstream security. Here is an article I wrote to this affect. > > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd-update-server/ > > > > Just a random thought as I am sitting here trying to reproduce some > release build issues on -CURRENT: > > Does this article require any significant change to keep in sync with > the changed 'make release' process starting with 9.0-RELEASE? > > Glen > > I believe it would require none, as this doesn't need to be done with a custom kernel, and the current freebsd-update-server code already works with 9. To this, though, if you wanted your own non-GENERIC named kernel, the release process itself would need to be altered. I had done this though, and documented at least what needs to be updated when using sysinstall here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng/release-build.html section 3.3.1 (custom kernel) -jgh -- Jason Helfman | FreeBSD Committer jgh@FreeBSD.org | http://people.freebsd.org/~jgh