From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Sep 12 15:49:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E01D337B400 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 15:49:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from directvinternet.com (dsl-65-185-140-165.telocity.com [65.185.140.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54A5643E42 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 15:49:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nwestfal@directvinternet.com) Received: from Tolstoy.home.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by directvinternet.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CMlwGd019521; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 15:47:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nwestfal@directvinternet.com) Received: from localhost (nwestfal@localhost) by Tolstoy.home.lan (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) with ESMTP id g8CMluq0019518; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 15:47:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: Tolstoy.home.lan: nwestfal owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 15:47:56 -0700 (PDT) From: "Neal E. Westfall" X-X-Sender: nwestfal@Tolstoy.home.lan To: Ken Wills Cc: Lawrence Sica , Giorgos Keramidas , Subject: Re: Why did evolution fail? In-Reply-To: <20020912211305.GA38442@zaptillion.net> Message-ID: <20020912153831.R69462-100000@Tolstoy.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, Ken Wills wrote: > > > Mutation is a mechanism of evolution. Evolution is the process. One > > > could make the leap of faith that since we mutate over time and these > > > mutations change the species we evolve... > > > > This is just what I am trying to get people to admit, that evolution > > requires tremendous leaps of faith. Now if you could see that it is also > > irrational, my job would be done. > > > > 'Tremendous leaps of faith are irrational?' ;-) How's that shiny new paintjob in > the corner coming along? Ah, but notice I did not say that! That evolution requires tremendous leaps of faith, is a separate issue from whether or not it is irrational. As rationality is impossible without the foundation of faith in God, it would be ludicrous to say that faith is irrational, in fact, it would be downright irrational! 8-) Neal To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message