From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 14:30:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0488E1065670 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 14:30:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from btillman99@yahoo.com) Received: from nm29.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm29.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B040B8FC14 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 14:30:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.212.152] by nm29.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 May 2011 14:30:30 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.240] by tm9.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 May 2011 14:30:30 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1049.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 May 2011 14:30:30 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 149289.88793.bm@omp1049.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 74649 invoked by uid 60001); 7 May 2011 14:30:29 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1304778629; bh=RaZ2z7YdK9Jbkmz8eJFeZ9Zc6PtB2PlFd6hiQdzvA9s=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=h2VQS2b8297H9AEk7vSqZiWdKWn45NwxoZRGRyz02AQn/D1J/3jkiIIzQNetk4/R1XgQmmnpd7FebUaPQAnQnnYzXrKXNIBDMsnPBR5vEgJISNJsGbL9VVfs8xYYDouuBJngJqjXtCuZ1nZZEEZlpf+y3IoCM0aNbf/8cBj6PDc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=eFmX6hm9VQ8azVvZ2crsdj48JvC8vbV5ZZ6/sljkh0dJ4mpzMbvZWK3qG59uiWNWPIJVXueV/aokVppczl7Da60ITBKtlmu/xNYSmPc40XTW4nA37330SsG/0TnEtYjzVsa6+n8oTdmWGEJF5DhwfH5+nD57WyiZgKBKuWqz0j0=; Message-ID: <507118.67900.qm@web36504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: FHYS5XoVM1n0iSiqqW9cuSWsEBZgXCr.46jak92DmRVz6Yz Zsh6633wuU48TH5FEQX8qqy0oToUZJUq4ZQzdw99bWm_MZSwNpPyCOrg3Q6d DiGeg8kpjsIYBK_6tqMwpcLjy1.C6rCEl21v7bfUShPoHCqNbO.OhmR9hHk8 eXMUVTO1L7hM01zep3YUwS2ItgMLEJOTxg66fjIeEIX9Un7coByClRK5GBF9 JBLlPV8rPeK5W_p48pmZ7v7dYtSljhtPZycCPu6Up1FEqu_Fp0WOdd5bwWG4 LQDW80CpRv4LzETomGyhCGlJ5ckro1BEzFYlbY1XZV3x6FdjIkuP_Ory2WuD oCQXWm2ECt_suQJmWdlpQo4.2Ki6gc.SmsNUpSmnQ1Znde8TeVPQR4EWV Received: from [98.242.233.74] by web36504.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 07 May 2011 07:30:29 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.110.299900 References: <723BE905-95AC-4B07-AD31-3D149F06527E@lafn.org> <462351.71539.qm@web36505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 07:30:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Tillman To: David Brodbeck , FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Sending a Fax X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 14:30:31 -0000 I knew this thread would bring up some ironies. For the record it's all in = their =0Aminds. E-Mails have been upheld in the US Court system as legal do= cuments. And =0Athose people afraid or distrusting of e-mail have only to g= ive me their fax =0Anumber and watch how quickly I can send them bogus fax = documents. Like I said, =0Ait's all in their minds. Faxing is no safer or m= ore secure than any other form =0Aof comminication. Its simply a waste of i= nk, toner and paper as far as I'm =0Aconcerned.=0A=0AI just finished an ass= ignment at a dinosaur of a company which still prints of =0Asets of huge D = and E size drawings for their estimating department. When I =0Ashowed them = the things you can do with a software package like Bluebeam Revu, =0Athey s= coffed at it because it costs $189 per seat. I showed them how they were = =0Awasting $200 to $500 each week printing out huge sets of drawings. In ju= st on =0Amonth they could have bought enough licensed copied of Revu to acc= ount for this =0Aand then stop printing so much paper which only ends up in= the trash. Their =0Asecretaries were still sending out proposals via fax e= ven when the client =0Arequested a PDF be sent by e-mail. Their reason for = this was, "This is the only =0Away we know how and we've done it like this = for so long, we don't want to =0Achange."=0A=0AIMHO...Faxing is so last cen= tury.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: David Brodbeck= =0ATo: FreeBSD Questions =0ASent: Fri= , May 6, 2011 1:30:58 PM=0ASubject: Re: Sending a Fax=0A=0AOn Fri, May 6, 2= 011 at 3:47 AM, Bill Tillman wrote:=0A> I read the o= ther replies to your post so let me put in my 2 cents worth. For =0A>the=0A= > last few years, I have basically abandoned faxing in favor of e-mailing P= DF =0Aand=0A> other document files. Paperless is not only more efficient bu= t its green too.=0A=0ABelieve it or not, there are industries where faxing = is still the=0Anorm.=A0 Many industrial suppliers want purchase orders by f= ax.=A0 It also=0Aseems to be the common way that pharmacies communicate wit= h doctors'=0Aoffices.=A0 These are conservative industries where email (and= =0Aespecially, email attachments) are still viewed with some suspicion.=0AA= lot of times these days the actual endpoint is a digital fax system,=0Atho= ugh; sometimes the fax never actually reaches paper.=0A____________________= ___________________________=0Afreebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=0A= http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0ATo unsubscrib= e, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A