From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 21 21:55:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A56416A41F; Sun, 21 Aug 2005 21:55:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from afields@afields.ca) Received: from afields.ca (afields.ca [216.194.67.132]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C362443D46; Sun, 21 Aug 2005 21:55:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from afields@afields.ca) Received: from afields.ca (localhost.afields.ca [127.0.0.1]) by afields.ca (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j7LLtfSM081489; Sun, 21 Aug 2005 17:55:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from afields@afields.ca) Received: (from afields@localhost) by afields.ca (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j7LLteS7081488; Sun, 21 Aug 2005 17:55:40 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from afields) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 17:55:40 -0400 From: Allan Fields To: Mike Adewole Message-ID: <20050821215540.GC58723@afields.ca> References: <00d101c5a570$7b322050$6501a8c0@newton> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <00d101c5a570$7b322050$6501a8c0@newton> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Cc: freebsd-libh@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Project BSDVISION Wants To Develop Native *BSD Console Desktop X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 21:55:42 -0000 On Sat, Aug 20, 2005 at 06:18:13AM -0400, Mike Adewole wrote: > For many people who spend a lot of time on the *BSD console and would love > to have a desktop environment comparable to KDE/GNOME, I'm starting a > project called BSDVISION to develop such an environment. Please don't ask if > such an environment is really needed or not; the important thing is that > some people like me need it badly enough to want to develop it. And here I thought you were talking about a desktop for us vt220 fans. There is already screen or emacs on that front. What about twin for example? What exactly is meant by a "console" desktop anyway other than something similar to early Windows that runs w/o X11? Can you also make a Unicode console for *BSD please? ;) > As a matter of fact, it has been in development for some time now and I > think it's getting to the point where it makes sense to ask for community > involvement. But I'm not looking for developers because development will > continue to be done by myself with the assistance of paid contractors. What > I'm looking for is people to maintain a community infrastructure (web site, > mailing list, online forum, webcvs/svn, etc) which a community project like > this needs in order to appeal to as many people as possible. > > So if you love the BSD console and would like to see it sport a complete > desktop environment, the bsdvision project can really use your support. And > since this project developed from an attempt to do a cleanroom > implementation of libh, we'll be using the old libh mailing list until we > have another one. Come help us make *BSD a truly complete platform with the > best console desktop environment in the universe :-) -- Allan Fields