From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Sep 12 17:27:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E80DA37B400 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 17:27:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net (gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.84]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89CBB43E77 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 17:27:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0015.cvx40-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([216.244.42.15] helo=mindspring.com) by gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17peId-0004s1-00; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 17:27:08 -0700 Message-ID: <3D813054.4869CC7C@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 17:24:52 -0700 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Hayes Cc: "Neal E. Westfall" , Giorgos Keramidas , Joshua Lee , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why did evolution fail? References: <200209122212.g8CMCb160562@hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dave Hayes wrote: > Terry Lambert writes: > > Dave Hayes wrote: > >> > Life is a local increase in order, by definition. > >> > >> I don't know about that, I've seen the floor of a stock exchange or > >> a busy park with lots of kids. That doesn't look like order to me. > > > > The stock market is not alive, the people are. > > Read carefully, oh admonisher of careful reading. I said "the floor > of a stock exchage". "the floor of the stock exchange" isn't alive, either, the people are. Before you escalate, let me generalize my statement for you. so that you will not feel compelled to do it for me: your examples are not agregate entities which themselves are representative of an instance of a life form. > >> Never mind that verifying this is close to impossible, would you > >> like to tell me just how you learned everyone's presumptions without > >> first making a bunch of your own? ;) > > > > I didn't make a generalization, so your statement is incorrect. > > My statement was a question, so your attempted refutation is > non-sequitor. My refutation was of the statement prior to the conjunctive comma. > Note the use of a question mark. ;) Note your use of a conjunctive comma, attempting to force me to accept your premise by responding either positively or negatively to your question. > I think it demonstrates incredible arrogance, to say you can > act but you don't. It certainly isn't tolerance. I posted the calculus of non-repudiation which could be implemented; if you have a problem with its logic, by all means, critique it. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message