From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 20:27:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 214F616A41C; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 20:27:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [204.156.12.53]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA31843D48; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 20:27:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 359AF46B06; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 16:27:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:30:30 +0100 (BST) From: Robert Watson X-X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: Daniel Eischen In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050619212919.Y6413@fledge.watson.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Poul-Henning Kamp , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Summary: experiences with NanoBSD, successes and nits on a Soekris 4801 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 20:27:51 -0000 On Sun, 19 Jun 2005, Daniel Eischen wrote: >> I think the NO_FOO options is the best compromize, but we need them >> to be more aligned to user concepts, "I don't need a compiler and >> all that", rather than "Don't build the C++ compiler and hobble >> the build because of this". > > How about NO_FOO[_INSTALL], where NO_FOO = no build and no install, and > NO_FOO_INSTALL just prevents the install. In theory, you could build > the complete system, then use NO_FOO_INSTALL instead of rm(1). I'd very much like to see this, but would like to see the Mk infrastructure provide a sensible way to do it. Offhand, I don't know what that sensible way should be. Regardless, NanoBSD is a good example of a situation where you want to build something -- i.e., the full compiler suite, but not install it, and devd is a particularly motivating case now that dhclient won't run properly without it. Robert N M Watson