From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 17:53:46 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06F511065670 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 17:53:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rloefgren@forethought.net) Received: from mzpi5.forethought.net (mzpi5.forethought.net [216.241.36.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAA808FC0A for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 17:53:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 216-241-45-95.static.forethought.net ([216.241.45.95] helo=auden.jmla.com) by mz3.forethought.net with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QIkO3-0004ba-EA for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 07 May 2011 10:29:47 -0600 Message-ID: <4DC5737A.8000602@forethought.net> Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 10:29:46 -0600 From: Reed Loefgren User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20110218 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <723BE905-95AC-4B07-AD31-3D149F06527E@lafn.org> <462351.71539.qm@web36505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <507118.67900.qm@web36504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <507118.67900.qm@web36504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Sending a Fax X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 17:53:46 -0000 On 05/07/11 08:30, Bill Tillman wrote: > I knew this thread would bring up some ironies. For the record it's all in their > minds. E-Mails have been upheld in the US Court system as legal documents. And > those people afraid or distrusting of e-mail have only to give me their fax > number and watch how quickly I can send them bogus fax documents. Like I said, > it's all in their minds. Faxing is no safer or more secure than any other form > of comminication. Its simply a waste of ink, toner and paper as far as I'm > concerned. > > I just finished an assignment at a dinosaur of a company which still prints of > sets of huge D and E size drawings for their estimating department. When I > showed them the things you can do with a software package like Bluebeam Revu, > they scoffed at it because it costs $189 per seat. I showed them how they were > wasting $200 to $500 each week printing out huge sets of drawings. In just on > month they could have bought enough licensed copied of Revu to account for this > and then stop printing so much paper which only ends up in the trash. Their > secretaries were still sending out proposals via fax even when the client > requested a PDF be sent by e-mail. Their reason for this was, "This is the only > way we know how and we've done it like this for so long, we don't want to > change." > > IMHO...Faxing is so last century. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: David Brodbeck > To: FreeBSD Questions > Sent: Fri, May 6, 2011 1:30:58 PM > Subject: Re: Sending a Fax > > On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 3:47 AM, Bill Tillman wrote: >> I read the other replies to your post so let me put in my 2 cents worth. For >> the >> last few years, I have basically abandoned faxing in favor of e-mailing PDF > and >> other document files. Paperless is not only more efficient but its green too. > Believe it or not, there are industries where faxing is still the > norm. Many industrial suppliers want purchase orders by fax. It also > seems to be the common way that pharmacies communicate with doctors' > offices. These are conservative industries where email (and > especially, email attachments) are still viewed with some suspicion. > A lot of times these days the actual endpoint is a digital fax system, > though; sometimes the fax never actually reaches paper. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Bill, I'd like to add to this that, in my opinion, the real issue these days is the emailing of unencrypted business papers. I take the position that *nothing* is ever deleted from an email server these days; or from those servers that are just relaying, no matter what the RFC says. I shake my head at what people send to their correspondents, that they would never think of discussing with a stranger. And yet they do just that via the spool. Regards, r