From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Nov 15 11: 4:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from whistle.com (s205m131.whistle.com [207.76.205.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E07737B4C5 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:04:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by whistle.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) id eAFJ4Rn24916; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:04:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from pau-amma.whistle.com( 207.76.205.64) by whistle.com via smap (V2.0) id xma024913; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:04:19 -0800 Received: (from dhw@localhost) by pau-amma.whistle.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eAFJ4IY58044; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:04:18 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:04:18 -0800 (PST) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <200011151904.eAFJ4IY58044@pau-amma.whistle.com> To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, n@nectar.com Subject: Re: faults re-inserting network card In-Reply-To: <20001115115023.A8682@hamlet.nectar.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:50:24 -0600 >From: "Jacques A. Vidrine" >I'm trying to track down the source of faults when re-inserting a >network card into my laptop. >[Short version] >= Are folks able to remove & re-insert their network cards on Sony VAIO > Z505s? >= Are folks able to remove & re-insert their Aironet cards on any > laptop? I can't speak to the former, but I will affirm that the latter is possible. >[Long (useful?) version] >I've only run 4.1-STABLE and 4.2-BETA, each with Doug Ambrisko's an >patches (which are now in -CURRENT, I believe) with this hardware. I'm running 4.1.1-S as of around 28 September on an IBM ThinkPad 600E. Unfortunately, I'm not running with Doug's patches at the moment -- not because of a problem with them, but because I had done the {build,install}{world,kernel} stuff on my desktop, and was testing the results of that experiment before upgrading all of the developer's desktops. I believe I ran with his patches for a while at the 4.1-S level, and was able to remove/insert the Aironet card OK -- though this isn't something I do very often. (As a sysadmin, I'm finding that having a portable machine that does X is very handy; I tend to have xterms from lots of boxes up on the screen... which is one of the better reasons to use a window manager that copes with virtual desktops.) [Note: I do the suspend/resume stuff a bit more often than the physical remove/insert; that hasn't failed for me in any obvious way that I can tell so far.] Unfortunately, I find that I experiment more with machines that aren't perceived to be involved in "mission-critical" work, and the more I use a given machine (such as the TP 600E), the more it becomes mission-critical.... :-( That said, I'm also running nearly the same code (a few days later, and with one nasty hack to isa/psm.c to handle some weirdness with the touchpad) on an NEC Versa 6030X, also with an Aironet (well, a Cisco-branded Aironet) card. I believe insert/eject works OK with it, as well, though it's at home, so I can't eject it from where I am right now. And that machine tends to lock up every once in a while -- sometimes it will go several days without a problem; others, if I adjust the position of the screen, it freezes solid. So I wouldn't get too excited about apparent failures on the NEC even if they did occur. Again, though, I *believe* I ran with Doug's patches for a while (before the most recent upgrade). >Thanks for any hints! I'll be glad to share information that I have, though off-list would prbably be best until something worth reporting comes up. Cheers, david -- David Wolfskill dhw@whistle.com UNIX System Administrator Desk: 650/577-7158 TIE: 8/499-7158 Cell: 650/759-0823 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message