From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 19:29:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D2E216A4CE for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2004 19:29:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A47B43D45 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2004 19:29:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1])i9DJSrbB044422 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 13 Oct 2004 20:28:54 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)i9DJSrwH044421; Wed, 13 Oct 2004 20:28:53 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 20:28:53 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: Sander Vesik Message-ID: <20041013192853.GB43973@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Sander Vesik , freebsd-java@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="OwLcNYc0lM97+oe1" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.6 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Wed, 13 Oct 2004 20:28:54 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040904, clamav-milter version 0.75l on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk cc: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: getting to 5.x binary packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 19:29:02 -0000 --OwLcNYc0lM97+oe1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Oct 13, 2004 at 09:59:25PM +0300, Sander Vesik wrote: > Ok, this is a sort of 'getting from A to B' question, except that I > dont presently have a good idea as to where 'A' is precicely ;-) >=20 > It would be nice to have binary packages of jdk 1.4 (or 1.5 i guess, > but anyways) so that it could be a simple download and hopefully ship > with one of the 5.x releases. So could anybody tell me if : >=20 > * there is a plan (or how to get to one existing) > * what the plan is > * what other java related plans are in FreeBSD > * if thereare obvious concrete ways somebody could help > * what these ways would be >=20 > I can promise to make a patches to the existing web pages @ > http://www.freebsd.org/java/howhelp.html about the state if > somebody explains it ... The problem with providing a binary distribution is not technical, but legal. If you download and build the JDK from source you have to agree to abide by the terms of the Sun Community Source License: http://wwws.sun.com/software/communitysource/j2se/java2/license.html Which says it's OK to use freely for Research and for Internal Deployment. Commercial use and permission to redistribute are a very different matter. You can use the java/jdk14 port to build a FreeBSD package for your own use, but you cannot give it away outside your own organization. In order for the FreeBSD Foundation to be licensed to distribute a pre-compiled J2SE 1.4.2 JDK or JRE freely the FreeBSD port would first have to pass Sun's compliance testing -- I believe that it has been stated that the jdk-1.4.2 port would pass in it's current state without any trouble at all -- but it takes money to get everything formally tested, and then the licensing terms have to be negotiated, again requiring some expenditure on lawyers etc. For most corporations I don't think the costs would be particularly onerous. For an all volunteer project like FreeBSD they're right out of the question unless a generous donor can be found. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --OwLcNYc0lM97+oe1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBbYH1iD657aJF7eIRAsdoAKCXkK0Jzpy5+PmN+4ok4E5EROE15gCfZNxB 71syQxL8z3Jsi3CIWxzcGfE= =ZDa2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --OwLcNYc0lM97+oe1--