From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 19 13:21:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27110106564A for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 13:21:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE3F88FC0C for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 13:21:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyf3 with SMTP id 3so2146937gyf.13 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 06:21:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.147.1.36 with SMTP id d36mr2601525yai.2.1311081715715; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 06:21:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (twdp-174-109-142-001.nc.res.rr.com [174.109.142.1]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f4sm2950163yhn.69.2011.07.19.06.21.54 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 19 Jul 2011 06:21:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3RJMTs2xpbz2CG4g for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 09:21:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 09:21:52 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20110719092152.690bf96c@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <201107190350.p6J3oP97028445@mail.r-bonomi.com> References: <20110718200120.05371fd6@scorpio> <201107190350.p6J3oP97028445@mail.r-bonomi.com> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.9 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 13:21:57 -0000 On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 22:50:25 -0500 (CDT) Robert Bonomi articulated: > > > Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 20:01:20 -0400 > > From: Jerry > > Subject: Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore > > > > On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 22:31:41 +0200 > > Polytropon articulated: > > > > > Your TV example is very good. I've recently read a text > > > that predicts the future of CDs - a text from the late 80's. > > > When we consider what we are _currently_ using, the text > > > predicting "no important future for CDs" looks quite funny. > > > > You are undoubtedly familiar with the 1986 quote: > > > > "I think there is a world market for about five computers" a > > Remark attributed to Thomas J. Watson (Chairman of the Board of > > International Business Machines) > > *SNICKER* > > So much for your reseearch skills. > > "Thomas J. Watson" _died_ in NINETEEN FIFTY SIX. If he made a > remark in 1986 it would have been world-shaking news. > > You are citing a 1986 .sig item from a _USENET_ posting by a Convex > Computer employee. The purported remark occurred in _1943_. *IF* it > was made, it is worth noting that, as a prediction, it _was_true_ for > *TEN*YEARS*. Now, how many other 'predictions' in the field of > computing have survived _that_ long? > > > Reputable sources have it: > "Although Watson is well known for his alleged 1943 statement: "I > think there is a world market for maybe five computers," there is > scant evidence he made it. > > There *is* 'some' evidence, albeit _not_ conclusive, that his son, > "Thomas J. Watson, Jr." said something _remotely_ related in 1953, to > wit: "But, as a result of our trip, on which we expected to get > orders for five machines, we came home with orders for 18." Actually, the research was fine; I simple failed to include reams of documentation, notes and citations. I felt that it would be overkill in the given environment. I was not attempting to fulfill the duties of a raconteur. I was simply demonstrating some of the factual or fictional statements made by supposedly intelligent individuals over time. -- Jerry ✌ jerry+fbsd@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or ignored. Do not CC this poster. Please do not ignore the "Reply-To" header. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html