From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 29 09:52:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C66616A4CE for ; Wed, 29 Dec 2004 09:52:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp108.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp108.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6AEB743D49 for ; Wed, 29 Dec 2004 09:52:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nicholas_wieland@yahoo.it) Received: from unknown (HELO pixie.subbacultcha.home) (nicholas?wieland@81.211.178.17 with login) by smtp108.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Dec 2004 09:52:01 -0000 Received: by pixie.subbacultcha.home (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 51F217D38; Wed, 29 Dec 2004 10:52:08 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 10:52:08 +0100 From: Nicholas Wieland To: John-Mark Gurney Message-ID: <20041229095208.GB803@pixie.subbacultcha.home> References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <2d7d2dd2041223035969e056d8@mail.gmail.com> <41D0AF75.6040500@401.cx> <20041228184712.GN19624@funkthat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041228184712.GN19624@funkthat.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p2 X-Crypto: GnuPG/1.2.6 http://www.gnupg.org/ X-GPG-Key-ID: 0DAA3925 X-GPG-Fingerprint: D3C2 DB93 DF6A 601B A32B CEB1 4020 7E71 0DAA 3925 cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nicholas Wieland List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 09:52:02 -0000 - John-Mark Gurney : > > Clearly, you have not tried to "sell" FreeBSD to a big corporation. > > Then we should create a website www.freebsdforcxo.com and use that. I think it's not a bad idea at all to have a different "pure-advocacy" website, something like advocacy.freebsd.org, Postgres has something similar and it's quite useful. > The problem is that the base FreeBSD.org website should remain as it > is. It is targeted to technical people who might not be running a GUI > web browser and want quick access to information. Like using accesskeys instead of a mouse ? I'm following the discussion and the only thing I see is people complaining without knowing the "medium" we're talking about, but "arguing" that the new web site will be crap for some reason (usually the wrong one). > Making it more pretty to sell, while destroying the usability for 99% > of the audience is not a solution. Agreed, but nobody wants to "destroy the usability", first of all because the current website is unusable (content is badly organized, the layout is inside the markup), second because I bet that someone here is good at web programming/design as someone else in developing an operating system :) I'm redesigning the web site, I'm not using Flash or some other crap, if the redesign performs bad on Lynx or Links I will consider it a bug that needs a fix, while correcting everything that in my opinion needs to be corrected on the current website. To be honest I think that this iperconservative attitude is useless, it would be good to have technical comments when people comes up with something usable. I speak for me, and *I* will be pleased to discuss every issue on my redesign. HAND, ngw -- checking for life_signs in -lKenny... no Oh my god, make (1) killed Kenny ! You, bastards ! nicholas_wieland-at-yahoo-dot-it