From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 11:23:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4182B16A403; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:23:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [83.120.8.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE1A713C505; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:23:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (gbshkj@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2GBNIdf057449; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:23:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id l2GBNI2B057448; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:23:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olli) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:23:18 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200703161123.l2GBNI2B057448@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, go@sib-ecometall.ru In-Reply-To: <20070316105110.GA92752@go.sib-ecometall.ru> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-stable User-Agent: tin/1.8.2-20060425 ("Shillay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.11-STABLE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:23:23 +0100 (CET) Cc: Subject: Re: open source graphics card X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, go@sib-ecometall.ru List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:23:25 -0000 Oleg Gritsak wrote: > I'm 99% sure, that open source principle is suitable only for software dev. > And OS car is a crappiest idea of all. Production (and research) requires > very expensive equipment. Fullstop. Nothing else can be said here, I think. Well, there are several open-source processors, most notable the "OpenSPARC" from Sun which is an open-source UltraSPARC T1 multicore CPU. For more examples, see this page: http://www.opencores.org/ Wikipedia has a whole lot of open-source hardware listed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_hardware Best regards Oliver PS: Please move this discussion to the -chat list. -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd (On the statement print "42 monkeys" + "1 snake":) By the way, both perl and Python get this wrong. Perl gives 43 and Python gives "42 monkeys1 snake", when the answer is clearly "41 monkeys and 1 fat snake". -- Jim Fulton