From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 13 15:14:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D3AB16A4CE for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:14:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from electra.nolink.net (electra.nolink.net [195.139.204.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3729D43D68 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:14:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lerik@nolink.net) Received: (qmail 96819 invoked by uid 1000); 13 Apr 2005 15:14:53 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Apr 2005 15:14:53 -0000 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:14:52 +0200 (CEST) From: Lars Erik Gullerud To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?= In-Reply-To: <864qeibp0v.fsf@xps.des.no> Message-ID: <20050413171132.B96104@electra.nolink.net> References: <425196F0.4020309@x-trader.de> <6731347a839d85db456b1c5a33bcf0b5@mac.com> <864qeibp0v.fsf@xps.des.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-206236866-1113405292=:96104" cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeVRRPd project status X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:14:55 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --0-206236866-1113405292=:96104 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Thu, 7 Apr 2005, Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav wrote: > Charles Swiger writes: >> It's dead, I think: Cisco's lawyers started making predatory noises >> about their "intellectual property". Some people from NetBSD are >> working on a replacement called CARP, which you might want to check >> out-- it seems that FreeBSD will be picking up support for this soon, >> as well. > > CARP comes from OpenBSD, not NetBSD, and is already in FreeBSD. =2E..and can't safely be deployed in a lot of datacenter scenarios where=20 the providers gear is running VRRP, since the OpenBSD-folks didn't bother= =20 to read up on how the process of obtaining a protocol number works, and=20 hence used the one assigned to VRRP after a half-baked attempt at getting= =20 one themselves. Hence making CARP pretty much useless for ISPs, no matter= =20 how good it may or may not be otherwise. /leg --0-206236866-1113405292=:96104--