From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 16 17: 2:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (horsey.gshapiro.net [209.220.147.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5B0A37B406 for ; Thu, 16 May 2002 17:02:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (gshapiro@localhost [IPv6:::1]) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g4H02pSd035300 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 16 May 2002 17:02:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g4H02o6p035297; Thu, 16 May 2002 17:02:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15588.18602.475413.650448@horsey.gshapiro.net> Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 17:02:50 -0700 From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: Erick Mechler Cc: Joe Kelsey , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NO_SENDMAIL condition violated by rc.sendmail In-Reply-To: <20020516165144.S49305@techometer.net> References: <1021592484.50695.9.camel@zircon.zircon.seattle.wa.us> <20020516165144.S49305@techometer.net> X-Mailer: VM 7.00 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG emechler> Why don't you do yourself a favor before you find your foot even emechler> deeper in your mouth, and read UPDATING. You might even do emechler> better to read the mailing list archives from about 1 month ago emechler> and see just how hard Greg Shapiro was working to accomodate all emechler> requests such as this. Thanks Erick! Joe, this has already been discussed and decided (read the list archives). Ranting and flaming sendmail (and therefore me) isn't going to accomplish anything at this point. I'm sorry that you are allergic to the word sendmail. I have no plans to change the name of the startup script (it is written to be sendmail specific) or the fact that it gets installed regardless of NO_SENDMAIL. This change was intentional -- I am not going to be responsible from breaking everyone's configuration. As I've already told you in private mail, people use sendmail_enable to start non-sendmail MTAs which provide sendmail binary replacements. I'm not going to get involved with another round of arguing this so don't expect a lot of responsiveness from me on this issue. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message