From owner-cvs-all Fri Jan 1 13:41:55 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA28460 for cvs-all-outgoing; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 13:41:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from thelab.hub.org (nat1262.mpoweredpc.net [142.177.186.246]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA28431; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 13:41:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by thelab.hub.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA23250; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 17:41:13 -0400 (AST) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: thelab.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 17:41:13 -0400 (AST) From: The Hermit Hacker To: Gary Palmer cc: Thomas Dean , mark@grondar.za, donegan@quick.net, dcs@newsguy.com, jmb@FreeBSD.ORG, committers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Postfix is coming. new uid, gid required. In-Reply-To: <63135.915216905@gjp.erols.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Fri, 1 Jan 1999, Gary Palmer wrote: > Thomas Dean wrote in message ID > <199812312228.OAA28553@ix.netcom.com>: > > Sendmail is a MUST. Sendmail should be in the mainline of the source > > tree. If you don't know why, I am sorry! > > I run a mail system which handles more than 1,000,000 *unique* messages each > day. I do not consider sendmail to be a requirement for our systems anymore, > and I'm actively looking for a replacement (NB: please don't mail me with ``go > to foomailer, you'll love it''. I'm not interested. I'll form my own opinions, > thanks) > > Giving our *huge* userbase (which is considerably numerous than the number of > messages/day I do), and how many of those are totally sendmail illiterate, why > is sendmail a requirement? For those who need sendmails features? Thats why > ftp://ftp.sendmail.org/ exists. IMHO having the option of `make world' > installing an alternate mailer which has a nearly english config file is a > plus. I hate to ask, but is it so hard for us to do similar to what *ack* Linux does? Where, at install time, you choose what mailer you want (or, rather, what package) installed? So that me, who prefers sendmail, has sendmail installed, but not postfix? why is it that the solution has to be one of "either sendmail or postfix, depending on what one group of ppl decides is the better one"? Marc G. Fournier Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message