From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 9 17:59:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A713F2FF for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2013 17:59:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-qe0-x231.google.com (mail-qe0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c02::231]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 66E692B11 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2013 17:59:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qe0-f49.google.com with SMTP id a11so3102038qen.22 for ; Sat, 09 Nov 2013 09:59:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=lNbG8ajVGKaJrn7w2du8uXBy092BEGiWWTtzYVmIi+8=; b=H5mKgQ6CNp7EGVGnWfyHubZV38jXYvVXqm4WmemIvZmd7otF8kL8ecxLrKp9TK1pw3 MkWqMro9/LoknTv/pbtTFrEpFte4iUdlQ8+Sy4oc+/FQyNAeCq9eIv7jOOcjJllWYW57 2rmiOGTIiQU/p4A6layMwZ18itqwWXbgJ7R1A= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc :content-type; bh=lNbG8ajVGKaJrn7w2du8uXBy092BEGiWWTtzYVmIi+8=; b=bYTkedXj7VbkGRdmM9GSxyr75JTxT0HqiPbx45kMn1z5Wm7adA+HP76hgih874OF2B tzgTLuok6ms7iJOoldPWuFiK/VO+GnHWD5HmkpSfzVfWaCfKVGXCnSHbWTnwlz86QD52 MjAi6hBC/WlG4OowRVc/0jpozxT82cCR3OiRy0YNt9P22s1iPJbBNAT3Z5btD0KUjnDJ CA+ANRaST8KfOdWfqISAZdy0KY4IDquHqEWxsaClcgL2l9xXvChWpiS60FML0BXHYC6E yzrx8SqSOrZ6BqCXACdcLiiOFTWVj0VCBNkj2JX3nIYFh29xKmtCfC0rclgQb6fN6axU eEtQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQn+7a5DjwLPlCn9FSPjzW1QlJZ2S19FGOS7D+dZz0SoSIPJ3fDl8MhFx9ldQfJvYC2hfyJV X-Received: by 10.224.8.65 with SMTP id g1mr34636665qag.68.1384019992643; Sat, 09 Nov 2013 09:59:52 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.96.63.101 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Nov 2013 09:59:22 -0800 (PST) From: Eitan Adler Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2013 12:59:22 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: DEFAULT_VERSIONS vs DEFAULT_${PORT}_VERSION To: Florian Smeets Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: FreeBSD Ports , Florian Smeets , Allan Jude X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2013 17:59:53 -0000 [ apologies to users of threaded mail clients] On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 4:21 AM, Florian Smeets wrote: >> DEFAULT_VERSIONS is a really poorly thought out API which is hard to >> read, hard to parse, and makes make -V far less useful. It pushes >> parsing logic into every single consumer. > > Why do we have to discuss this in a thread that just extends the usage > of the feature, and not the original commit/discussion? I was discussing this #bsdports and was asked to reply on the mailing lists. In any case since DEFAULT_VERSIONS isn't widely used now would be a good time to fix it. -- Eitan Adler