From owner-freebsd-java Tue Dec 11 11:41:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from zircon.seattle.wa.us (sense-sea-CovadSub-0-228.oz.net [216.39.147.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 50B5B37B417 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 11:41:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 65195 invoked by uid 1001); 11 Dec 2001 19:43:11 -0000 From: Joe Kelsey MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15382.25038.873386.878424@zircon.zircon.seattle.wa.us> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 11:43:10 -0800 To: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: jdk1.3.1p5 In-Reply-To: <15382.20613.76791.634824@caddis.yogotech.com> References: <20011210001702.10731.qmail@web14303.mail.yahoo.com> <20011210024138.GA3148@gnuppy> <20011209223635.A1152@absinthe> <15380.15272.167683.46148@caddis.yogotech.com> <20011210003200.C1152@absinthe> <15380.65513.794203.276229@caddis.yogotech.com> <20011211104902.GA8293@gnuppy> <15382.20613.76791.634824@caddis.yogotech.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.98 under Emacs 21.1.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nate Williams writes: > [ > Continuing to play devil's advocate here. I believe native threading > is a step in the right direction, but it's certainly not the panacea > that is implied here. > ] Native threading is *required* for the mozilla plugin. > Again, you can do everything (including HotSpot, if you're so inclined) > without the native threading. However, it's *easier* to do without I beg to differ. The green threads code is full of bugs and does not work properly. This is probably why 1.4 has dropped green threads. It is literally impossible to get the mozilla plugin to work with green threads without spending a lot of time fixing bugs in the green threads code. Nate, *you* may have trivial applications that do not rely on extensive use of threads. However, any attempt to use real threads to do real work falls flat when you attempt to use green threads. Go ahead and prove me wrong by making the plugin work with green threads. /Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message