From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri May 24 09:01:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA23134 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 24 May 1996 09:01:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from etinc.com (etinc.com [204.141.244.98]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA23119 for ; Fri, 24 May 1996 09:01:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dialup-usr11.etinc.com (dialup-usr11.etinc.com [204.141.95.132]) by etinc.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA01126; Fri, 24 May 1996 12:07:08 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 12:07:08 -0400 Message-Id: <199605241607.MAA01126@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: "Louis A. Mamakos" From: dennis@etinc.com (Dennis) Subject: Re: The view from here (was Re: ISDN Compression Load on CPU) Cc: hackers@freebsd.org Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk someone with a lot more time than i do writes....... > >I'll briefly put my UUNET hat on, the one that I've worn when I was >directly involved the design, specification and recommendation of >hardware selections of well in excess of $10M last year. this is frightning...... :-) and whats the new version of the old adage "no-one ever got fired for recommending Cisco (IBM)" Most guys like you arent willing to put your ass on the line to save your company a few bucks and i cant say i blame you.....but remember, its a lot easier being an employee than an owner; its easy to spend someone elses money. I used to recommend Proteons (back when Cisco was making boxes with vacuum cleaner blowers) at Nynex and Im sure they use ciscos now, but they're too stupid to use unix or PCs, and most small ISPs arent. >Consider that you have many, many unmanned POP locations, all over the >planet. These are generally co-located in telephone central offices >which are not manned 24x7. We colocate in interexchange carrier >central offices for a variety of reasons, including cost (you don't >need to purchase $5000/mo local loops on each of your DS3 trunks). >There is also good environmental conditions and power available in the >form of -48V DC power plants that run all of the telco transmission >stuff. [snipped in the name of bandwidth] you've made a good point for backbone routers, but what about the other 95% of the world? dennis