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On Wed, Apr 28, 2004 at 10:11:38AM -0700,
 Chris Pressey probably wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 20:31:04 +0400
> Sergey Zaharchenko <doublef@tele-kom.ru> wrote:
> >=20
> > If I take out every word about main() from C's specification (making
> > it an ordinary function), will the resulting `language' stay
> > Turing-complete?
>=20
> Not AFAIK.
>=20
> > If not, why?
>=20
> You no longer have a start state.
>=20

What if I add `The function with the same name as the executable starts
the program's execution like main() does in C'?

--=20
DoubleF
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before the music stopped.

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