From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 23:07:40 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C9FB16A417; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:07:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [130.225.244.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78A6113C458; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:07:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (unknown [192.168.61.3]) by phk.freebsd.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id B919617105; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:07:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lAGN7ajb033842; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:07:36 GMT (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Nate Lawson From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 16 Nov 2007 14:32:22 PST." <473E1A76.1030207@root.org> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:07:36 +0000 Message-ID: <33841.1195254456@critter.freebsd.dk> Sender: phk@critter.freebsd.dk Cc: cvs-src@FreeBSD.ORG, Scott Long , src-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren_Schmidt?= Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/dev/ata atapi-cd.c atapi-cd.h X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:07:40 -0000 In message <473E1A76.1030207@root.org>, Nate Lawson writes: >Well, there are two questions: media present (yes/no) and drive capable >of telling if media present without just trying to read it (yes/no). This risk reopening the old religious war if drivers should poll their drives to be up to date on media existence. Practically all other modern operating systems do it, with the benefit that an icon can be flashed when you plug something in, (and in certain cases, so viruses can be autoinstalled without relying on user stupidity). I personally think it would make a lot of sense if FreeBSD moved in that way, but I've been told in no uncertain terms that this will speed up third coming and shake the very foundations of the unive^H^H^H^H^HCAM code. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.