From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 23:11:17 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FDE416A419; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:11:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F37EF13C448; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:11:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from phobos.samsco.home (phobos.samsco.home [192.168.254.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lAGNBBev036143; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:11:11 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Message-ID: <473E238D.4030800@samsco.org> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:11:09 -0700 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.8.1.6) Gecko/20070802 SeaMonkey/1.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Poul-Henning Kamp References: <33841.1195254456@critter.freebsd.dk> In-Reply-To: <33841.1195254456@critter.freebsd.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]); Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:11:11 -0700 (MST) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.1.8 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on pooker.samsco.org Cc: cvs-src@FreeBSD.ORG, src-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren_Schmidt?= , Nate Lawson Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/dev/ata atapi-cd.c atapi-cd.h X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:11:17 -0000 Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <473E1A76.1030207@root.org>, Nate Lawson writes: > >> Well, there are two questions: media present (yes/no) and drive capable >> of telling if media present without just trying to read it (yes/no). > > This risk reopening the old religious war if drivers should poll > their drives to be up to date on media existence. > > Practically all other modern operating systems do it, with the > benefit that an icon can be flashed when you plug something in, > (and in certain cases, so viruses can be autoinstalled without > relying on user stupidity). > > I personally think it would make a lot of sense if FreeBSD moved > in that way, but I've been told in no uncertain terms that this > will speed up third coming and shake the very foundations of the > unive^H^H^H^H^HCAM code. > > This has nothing to do with polling, you're just trotting out an irrelevant argument to divert attention. Scott