From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Oct 28 22:44:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA01615 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 22:44:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns.eu.org (valerian.glou.eu.org [193.56.58.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA01610 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 22:44:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.eu.org (8.7.3/8.7.1/951117) with UUCP id HAA28379; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 07:44:06 +0100 (MET) Received: (from regnauld@localhost) by tetard.glou.eu.org (8.8.2/8.7.3/tetard-uucp-2.7) id XAA05369; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 23:11:17 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199610282211.XAA05369@tetard.glou.eu.org> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 23:11:16 +0100 From: regnauld@tetard.glou.eu.org (Philippe Regnauld) To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) Cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Base tree bloating (Was: ex/vi version 1.79 now available for anonymous ftp.) References: <199610281823.TAA04298@ravenock.cybercity.dk> <199610282014.VAA01918@uriah.heep.sax.de> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.48.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT i386 In-Reply-To: <199610282014.VAA01918@uriah.heep.sax.de>; from J Wunsch on Oct 28, 1996 21:14:18 +0100 Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk J Wunsch (j) ecrit/writes: > suffers from some bugs. We better might find a way to update it by > Perl 5, but with still leaving most of the bloat in an optional port. That makes it mostly functional for some, and half for others. I hate to think about the discussion on where to draw the line on what's 'in' and what's 'out'. > > I have looked at the perl junk we have in the tree, all of it could be > > rewritten in a very short time.... > > Ick. Of course. We could also whack everything in C, or revert the > entire system back to the V7 level. Jordan doesn't need to write his > new sysinstall in Tcl, either. ;-) Ok, maybe that was not a good suggestion :-P I'm personally more than grateful for th sysinstall work Jordan's doing, to the point where I don't mind having TCL in the source tree. Also TCL is widely accepted in the UNIX world (then again so is Perl...) > We should agree that a modern system might come with modern tools, and > rather seek to reduce the bloat to a fair limit. E.g., Tcl is there ^^^^^^^^^^ There's the dilemma. -- -- Phil -[ Philippe Regnauld / regnauld@eu.org / +55.4N +11.3E @ Sol3 / +45 31241690 ]- -[ "To kårve or nøt to kårve, that is the qvestion..." -- My sister ]-