From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 23:15:55 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53BE716A419; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:15:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [130.225.244.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0419B13C45A; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:15:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (unknown [192.168.61.3]) by phk.freebsd.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB4D217106; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:15:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lAGNFruW033908; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:15:53 GMT (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Scott Long From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:11:09 MST." <473E238D.4030800@samsco.org> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:15:53 +0000 Message-ID: <33907.1195254953@critter.freebsd.dk> Sender: phk@critter.freebsd.dk Cc: cvs-src@FreeBSD.ORG, src-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren_Schmidt?= , Nate Lawson Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/dev/ata atapi-cd.c atapi-cd.h X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:15:55 -0000 In message <473E238D.4030800@samsco.org>, Scott Long writes: >Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >>> Well, there are two questions: media present (yes/no) and drive capable >>> of telling if media present without just trying to read it (yes/no). >> >> This risk reopening the old religious war if drivers should poll >> their drives to be up to date on media existence. > >This has nothing to do with polling, you're just trotting out an >irrelevant argument to divert attention. No, I merely pointed out that Nates worries had an obvious and widely accepted solution, which unfortunately is religiously unacceptable in certain parts of FreeBSD storage subsystems. For all I know, the problem sos@ has complained about has a solution that just needs somebody to change the relevant few lines of code. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.