From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Oct 29 13:57:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mail12.speakeasy.net (mail12.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.212]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8A5037B405 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 13:57:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 57197 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2001 21:57:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO laptop.baldwin.cx) ([64.81.54.73]) (envelope-sender ) by mail12.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 29 Oct 2001 21:57:07 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <15325.52842.924427.464498@caddis.yogotech.com> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 13:56:56 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: Nate Williams Subject: Re: time_t not to change size on x86 Cc: tlambert2@mindspring.com, Jordan Hubbard , Poul-Henning Kamp , chat@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 29-Oct-01 Nate Williams wrote: >> > [ Moved to -chat, and reduced Cc list somewhat ] >> > >> >> > > type-checking than C, (but before anybody suggest it: "...but without >> >> > > all >> >> > > the excess luggage and emotional hangups of C++") >> >> > >> >> > Even implying that C++ simply has emotional hangups is like saying >> >> > that Jeffrey Dahmer merely had an eating disorder. :) >> >> > >> >> > That language is nothing less than a distillation of raw evil. >> >> >> >> Any tool looks evil if it is used incorrectly. >> > >> > Any tool that requires you to go through the gyrations that C++ requires >> > in order to accomplish simple things is evil. ;) >> >> My personal peeve with C++ is that is a growth on teh side of C (although at >> this point it's larger than C..) I prefer the way Java lays out code >> (functions defined within the class, etc.). > > Java is my #1 choice for language. If I was writing something using a GUI, it is for me. I _really_ like how easy it is to use things in Swing (yes, I haven't really played with Java since 1.1.x + swing days :-P). Just plug the item in a container and boom, it all works. And the interface is clean w/o needing precompilers or other hacks. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message