From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 17 20:54:43 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81337335C63 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2020 20:54:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-qv1-xf34.google.com (mail-qv1-xf34.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::f34]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49nHPZ2VJ0z4VPt for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2020 20:54:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: by mail-qv1-xf34.google.com with SMTP id r16so1747160qvm.6 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2020 13:54:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tenebras-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=46ZWxLlvoNE78PUZcfN/i8MJxA8VQjA98fRVwjrqfb0=; b=GVVNEV8bNWCnPTApXG7nfjiLbWFQ3meveQub9jh8WQ2HO8wuVwC5Lge2grx3XVXvIF XYFj6w4/S5IbBN4EhMhe5O0KaXO8ZvTGlvL3i3/NBbNk/faS6CEwIEfIix4JSs+ZyxXW JA9/sDS+4svOD4msgj99ZPIHapqpQvcoemY8/ZPZHoFA49LbNBkfAgO+dymJuqEvRtRg G7T3zsxblh5kFPw8fmtDHIna8vY5bxj4xWs/0z6mbyS91iE310iEtYPjAPMGX1NdKiZy 4ywMDalxrroXN7kd1j7DAGmNvu8SoIOc+SRlDvHeQ9W8D9Oisdf/tCuWaToYawtffrgN MxYQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=46ZWxLlvoNE78PUZcfN/i8MJxA8VQjA98fRVwjrqfb0=; b=JLedDfSS04HBC0LimUx8sR/ZZ6RHnCj8oMun1csYKUa6vHBUsskkJyKuxGdjbaW66b VDRCZ7JkVrujox9BE79pB68m8mCoTNnI8jXE0I9Emd1gyiqzvfxPorilgQP+BEJlVXLC SAeP7jWiLmNGX8QQKdsdlmbkxL+z12kR4ZrI6HRLP5i+ha5+QUZ5mj8zbQxZQVUwUzUK tQrjfA40xeluUGRPpyG3CP82vfWGFIoCJdpNp7R70oWS/0wDSBtta/W0JPcojNfyqV6R bbQx00Z2s96KtDgFKat4PUwDTDntK4CyAmsXBxTrczKR32QhXBKmKNYY5In+xZ0aIKXQ BVWw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531tmMj6I0QQOu1F6TmoqajBHDD4geH2z/1KxiSm9Y8UGUPIz3oE OZ2bL3NZezB161sdaOVI4LTPyvxdJU4GXuvGEK+h0w== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJy5Qc2ndVcjdVmVmSAISL4zHyE2lsj4ujoN8d7n9n9qBNqDhfMR7QtpiYOrB2bSins9EKuZTyH5gg4uSL5uMpg= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6214:2ae:: with SMTP id m14mr516675qvv.185.1592427281302; Wed, 17 Jun 2020 13:54:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20200617133525.4cd210d3@bigus.dream-tech.com> In-Reply-To: <20200617133525.4cd210d3@bigus.dream-tech.com> From: Michael Sierchio Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2020 13:54:05 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Infinite stupid threads ... To: Dave Hayes Cc: Roderick , Polytropon , FreeBSD Questions X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49nHPZ2VJ0z4VPt X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=tenebras-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.s=20150623 header.b=GVVNEV8b; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kudzu@tenebras.com has no SPF policy when checking 2607:f8b0:4864:20::f34) smtp.mailfrom=kudzu@tenebras.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.74 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.66)[-0.659]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[tenebras-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:s=20150623]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.21)[0.211]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.995]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[tenebras.com]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[tenebras-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::f34:from]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[gmail.com,edvax.de,freebsd.org]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.33 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2020 20:54:43 -0000 On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 1:35 PM Dave Hayes wrote: > On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 13:02:49 -0700 > Michael Sierchio wrote: > > I do like the fact that sometimes troll-initiated threads get hijacked = by > > thoughtful discourse. > > This is the exact reason I like to watch threads and occasionally respond= . > > Personally, I find the word "troll" overused and meaningless. Only the > very old > school know what a -real- troll is. > I'm so old, I fart dust. My first USENET post was in 1983. > > Any discussion of etiquette is doomed. > > Of course it is. Etiquette is an arbitrary subjective standard, Respectfully, I beg to differ. Etiquette is a customary code of polite behavior. Consider it, in this context, to be the rules of the game for discourse, and the analogy is apt =E2=80=93 it's hard to play tennis if you= don't agree on the rules. Therefore rules of etiquette should be few in number, and easy to remember, and reinforced regularly. There are cultural and linguistic and generational divides here, so etiquette helps define the neutral ground of our colloquy. --=20 "Well," Brahm=C4=81 said, "even after ten thousand explanations, a fool is = no wiser, but an intelligent person requires only two thousand five hundred." - The Mah=C4=81bh=C4=81rata