From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 3:28:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4649137B417 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 03:28:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAKBSjS92695; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:28:45 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <012801c171b6$845a9500$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" , , "Chip" Cc: References: <006901c171b1$f549f760$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:28:39 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ted writes: > If the Xserver is properly written you cannot lock > up or crash your system with KDE or any other buggy > window manager. I am reassured. I assume that XFree86 is the X Server in this case? At least I recall installing that before I installed KDE. My own guess is that the environment exposed a bug in a video driver or something (I'm using a generic driver with a GeForce video card, although I'm just using a relatively vanilla 1024x768 video mode). A bug in a driver could obviously crash the OS, since drivers must be trusted. > Sure you can cause the window manager to dump core > or whatever ... KDE takes a core dump every time I log out of it. Not very reassuring. > Even an Xserver that isn't necessairly buggy but > instead gets something back that's unexpected from > the video card chipset can do this. That would make sense in my case. Of course, it still makes the GUI environment that caused it too unstable to use. > It's not the best thing from a stability standpoint > to run the Xserver on the same system that you want > to run the X clients on. But isn't that exactly what most people are doing, when they try to use FreeBSD as a replacement for Windows? I wouldn't mind running the server on my Windows machine, but no X Server for Windows seems to cost less than $250-$500 dollars. In fact, I'd actually prefer to run the server on my Windows machine, as I treat FreeBSD as a server machine, not a separate desktop. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message