From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 06:11:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: arch@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BBD016A4DE for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 06:11:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (vc4-2-0-87.dsl.netrack.net [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E196543D58 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 06:11:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1] (may be forged)) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k886APqh059280; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 00:10:25 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 00:10:45 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20060908.001045.1683322424.imp@bsdimp.com> To: howard0su@gmail.com From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: References: <20060907.153239.1219861549.imp@bsdimp.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 4.2 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0 (harmony.bsdimp.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 08 Sep 2006 00:10:26 -0600 (MDT) Cc: arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Modularize kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 06:11:11 -0000 In message: "Howard Su" writes: : On 9/8/06, M. Warner Losh wrote: : > I routinely boot a minimal kernel and kldload everything. this gives : > me a kernel about 1/3 the size of a full GENERIC build, but at the : > price of needing to keep my modules up to date. : : For -STABLE tree, i think it is easy since ABI is fixed. However what : I proposed is pushing this effort to let most user to use module : instead of rebuilding the kernel. I guess what I'm saying is that with a minimal kernel + all the modules we have, you have that today. Warner